Cured, Smoked Sealed....Toss it?

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lacough

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Jun 9, 2014
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All, 

I think I know the answer, but I want confirmation. I have cured, sliced smoked bacon in vacuum sealed pouches in my refrigerator from November (Don't ask why and how). 

They are all seaked tight and the color doesn't look any different. 

Being that it was in the refrigerator and not the freezer, I should probably chuck it anyway, right?

Thanks in advance!

DL
 
DL, don't chuck it just yet.

I'm no food safety expert, but we do have one on here.

Chef Jimmy J, he's the food safety moderator.

I will PM him & as soon as he gets on he will give you an answer.

Al
 
Golly, I eat vacuum-sealed, refrigerated (35 degrees) stuff that is a few months old all the time. In particular, I buy bacon at Costco in bulk, add some additional smoke via cold-smoking, and then keep it in the fridge for several months. I have almost never had to throw it out. The few times I have ever thrown out vacuum-sealed bacon was when it started to smell "off" and developed a flavor that was not that great.

Remember, bacon is one of the greatest flavor enhancers there is, and if its flavor isn't 100% fantastic, I wouldn't use it.

So, my only concern is taste. I have absolutely no concern about food safety given that it is cured, smoked, and refrigerated.

However, I am not one of those food safety experts that others referred to, so please don't take my advice on food safety as any sort of "gospel."
 
Was it dry cured or brine cured? Was it cold smoked,
 
Jimmy, 

It was dry cured with mortons tenderquick and brown sugar. It has been sealed since it was sliced. The refrigerator has been on and cold the entire time. it was smoked to an IT of about 150. Packs are still vacuum'ed tight. 

thanks!
 
That's good news. Tossing meat, aka $$$, stinks...JJ
 
so,if it smells fine and feels fine, it should be fine?

Yes. Your choice of cure, TQ dry, is very effective and has been used a long time. Add the low moisture of a dry cure, antiseptic smoke and consistent storage
 
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Update....opened the package, smelled like the day I sealed it! Cooked it up, at a few slices and I am still here typing this! I will let you know if things take a turn for the worse! Lol

Thank you all!
 
I'm sure you'll be fine.

Vacuum sealing is pretty amazing technology. I have eaten stuff in the freezer after almost two years, and it was as good as the day it was frozen. In the fridge, I was still eating in February our "Christmas ham" which I was actually given to us around December 3. So, two months. Cheese goes on forever, although even with the vacuum, I still sometimes get moldy.

One other preservation idea. This one is really pretty cool. If you have a Sodastream (a water carbonator), you can use it to inject some CO2 into a bag or canister with your food and then seal it, with or without a vacuum. The C02 "pushes out" the oxygen, and does not react with the food. If you Google C02 and "food preservation" you'll find that it is used commercially.

The best use for this is strawberries, a food which I think sets the record for the most perishable food on earth. I live near some of the best strawberry fields in the world (central coast California) and we are at the height of the season. I have been able to keep strawberries at close to peak for almost four days in the fridge, using this technique. That may not seem like much, but I was not able to get more than one day without using this trick.
 
Just a note...Any Non-cured Vac-Pac, Sous Vide or Modified Atmosphere Packaging like with CO2, is suseptible to Clostridium Botulinum growth above 37°F and stored more than 10 day. So, while these methods of packaging are useful to extend shelf life, there are time limits and watch the storage temp...JJ
 
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Just a note...Any Non-cured Vac-Pac, Sous Vide or Modified Atmosphere Packaging like with CO2, is suseptible to Clostridium Botulinum growth above 37°F and stored more than 10 day. So, while these methods of packaging are useful to extend shelf life, there are time limits and watch the storage temp...JJ
I find your post confusing. Are you saying that if I didn't add CO2 that it would decrease the likelihood of botulism? You make it sound like the presence of high CO2 levels will increase the danger.

Or, are you merely restating what we already know about botulism, namely that it is a problem with anaerobic (no oxygen) storage at temperatures above normal refrigerator temps?

I don't think I ever read anything about CO2 being something that would add to the hazard of creating botulism. A quick Google search turned up this paper:

The effect of 100% CO2 on the growth of nonproteolytic Clostridium botulinum at chill temperatures.

From the executive summary: "Of the atmospheres tested, growth occurred at a slower rate and over a narrower range of conditions when C. botulinum was exposed to 100% CO2."

I didn't do any research beyond that, but it does seem to suggest that not only is CO2 not going to promote botulism growth, any more than any other non-oxygen environment, but that it might actually be somewhat beneficial. From that paper, it obviously is not going to completely inhibit the growth, so the danger is still there, but no more so than, say, a container that had simply been subjected to a vacuum pump.

Bottom line, of course, is to make sure to only do canning intended for room-temperature storage on perfectly sterilized containers; make sure to understand the relationship between pH and toxin growth; and for foods stored in the refrigerator, make sure your fridge stays in the low 30s, if possible.
 
No increase in risk, just restating the issues with any anaerobic bacteria in an oxygen free environment. CO2, Nitrogen, all modified atmosphere packaging has benefits in extending freshness,under refrigeration. Just didn't want anybody adding CO2 and thinking they can leave their produce on the counter. Your tip was a good one, didn't want a newbie lurker misunderstanding...JJ
 
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