Sausage meat

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maineman

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Hope I'm posting this in the correct location. I'm going to start making sausage this weekend. I'm relying on Rytek Kudas's book as a reference and instructions. My one question is some of the recipes call for pork and pork trimmings. I'm using Boston butt, do I still need the pick trimmings or is there enough fat in the butt? Thanks
 
There is plenty of fat in the butt.

I always look for one with a thick fat cap.

It is the perfect cut for making sausage.

Al
 
The butt is fine. If there is skin you may want to take it off. Also do a slight trim and get the nasty fat membrane off (its the fat goo)
 
Thanks all. So if the recipe calls for 5lbs pork, 2 lbs veal, and 3lbs pork trimmings I could just do 8lbs pit butt and 2lbs veal? Am I understanding everything correctly?
 
Thanks again. The last question has to do with casings. I have used collagencasings before but decided to use natural this time for some brats, breakfast links, and regular sausage. I plan on smoking all. Can a guy make links out of collagen casings without ties or clamps or should I just stick to the natural casings?
 
Thanks again. The last question has to do with casings. I have used collagencasings before but decided to use natural this time for some brats, breakfast links, and regular sausage. I plan on smoking all. Can a guy make links out of collagen casings without ties or clamps or should I just stick to the natural casings?
Collagen doesn't link well. I'd stick to natural.

If you haven't already, give this a read:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/159729/how-to-handle-natural-casings
 
One other thing, is Legg 6.25% nitrite cure the same as cure #1? I get concerned about when it comes to this stuff and want it to be right. Thanks again for all the info and advice
 
As Al said you can use all pork butt,I always found Rytek recipe to be salty,you can use less salt and do a test fry patty.

Richie
 
My only other concern is that all I could find locally is collegan casings for the breakfast sausage. I'm thinking I will stuff if, use hog rings to hold the links while smoking, then snip the hog rings of while packaging. Does this make sense? By the way tomorrow is the big day!
 
My only other concern is that all I could find locally is collegan casings for the breakfast sausage. I'm thinking I will stuff if, use hog rings to hold the links while smoking, then snip the hog rings of while packaging. Does this make sense? By the way tomorrow is the big day!
My choice would be string and you can make links.

Richie
 
Should I just make a long string of breakfast sausage, then smoke it. After smoking then just cut into link sizes? Will the meat stay in the casing?
 
Hope I'm posting this in the correct location. I'm going to start making sausage this weekend. I'm relying on Rytek Kudas's book as a reference and instructions. My one question is some of the recipes call for pork and pork trimmings. I'm using Boston butt, do I still need the pick trimmings or is there enough fat in the butt? Thanks
HI Maineman.

I think you have been given some great info above.  I just want to throw my 2 cents in when it comes to pork trimmings or meat to fat ratios for the fresh sausages I've been making for years now.

I do 80% meat to 20% fat ratios for my fresh Brats and Fresh all pork Franks and it makes AMAZING sausages that just can't seem to ever go wrong.

I simply buy pork back fat from the butcher to make my sausage and do 80% super lean meat and 20% pork fat.  I do also keep fat trimmings, vacuum seal, and weight them for usage as fat as well.

I hunt each year and wild animals often do not have much usable fat PLUS we humans these days really only appreciate pork or beef fat.  Other wild game fat and tissue leads to the "gamey" taste people dislike.

I don't like a lot of guess work in trying to figure out my meat to fat ratios so with store bought cuts of meat (not talking ground) I simply trim off the fat, weigh the meat, weigh the fat, and boom I can do simple math to get my 80/20 ratio.

For a quick reference on 80:20 ratio:

-5 pounds of sausage = 4 pounds lean meat : 1 pound of fat

-10 pounds of sausage = 8 pounds of lean meat : 2 pounds of fat

-20 pounds of sausage = 16 pounds of lean meat : 4 pounds of fat

-25 pounds of sausage = 20 pounds of lean meat : 5 pounds of fat

Nice and simple math at 80/20 ratios and little to no guess work if you separate lean meat from fat and weigh.  No mysteries here :)

Again, do as you like as there are many ways to make sausage and approaches that will make excellent sausage. 

I just wanted to make sure and mention this approach because I RARELY see it mentioned and it seems so simple to me.  Also, it is such an easy and elegant approach that takes the mystery out of wild game sausage where there is no fat or that particular animal's fat is not desired due to gamey taste.  This approach works for animals in the wild or farm raised store bought meat so it seems fairly fool proof and ALWAYS gets the most accurate meat to fat ratios.

I hope this info gives some great food for thought :D
 
Should I just make a long string of breakfast sausage, then smoke it. After smoking then just cut into link sizes? Will the meat stay in the casing?
Yes you can do that. This is how I usually do breakfast links. I make the long link as long as my sheets pans are. I place a piece of parchment paper on the sheet then the long links. Into the freezer to par freeze. Once set enough I cut into links and vac pack. If the links are to soft after cutting I will freeze some more prior to vac packing. If you don't freeze prior to vac packing you will squish the meat out, even if the ends are tied.
 
Should I just make a long string of breakfast sausage, then smoke it. After smoking then just cut into link sizes? Will the meat stay in the casing?

Instead of links I will sometimes roll the bfast sausage into logs 2" in diameter the wrap & throw in freezer for a few hours then slice into patties & then vac pack & freeze.
 
If you are hanging the sausage, strings will work.  If you are smoking it flat on the grate, then you can just cut the collagen into lengths with the ends "open".  I smoke my snack sticks in collagen this way laying flat on the WSM grates.
 
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