I've been trying to post this for over a week. @mike5051 and a few others convinced me to get the vortex. . . Awesome. We had a neighborhood/family picnic so I mixed up the standard PP option with a load of wings to test out my new toy. I used it wrong. . . Big end up instead of down, but I'll take the results for now! I love my Weber kettles and think they'll get used more again. As a guy without a lot of time to do what I really enjoy smoking/bbq, I feel like a MES with AMNPS and a Vortex with the kettle are a perfect match. You create low and slow flavor for the bigger meats and get to play with fire with the proteins better suited for high heat.