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post #141 of 149
I take a slightly different approach to using one of the AMAZEN smokers in my Gen 2.5 MES.

I use the AMAZEN 6"-9" expanding tube smoker pulled all the way out to 9" and fill it with pellets. I don't think it oversmokes at all. I place it on top of a steel mesh drawer organizer that I found at Walmart. It's a Mainstays Mesh Organizer 2" x 3" x 9" (long and narrow, just like the tube smoker). You have to remove the four rubber feet from the bottom or the mesh organizer. I place it INVERTED on the left side of the bottom drip pan with the 9" dimension running front to back. I then lay the lit tube smoker on top of the inverted mesh organizer. I remove the MB chip loader and get a good draft of TBS that keeps the pellets lit. My burn time is about what AMAZEN states for the tube smoker.

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post #142 of 149
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I take a slightly different approach to using one of the AMAZEN smokers in my Gen 2.5 MES.

I use the AMAZEN 6"-9" expanding tube smoker pulled all the way out to 9" and fill it with pellets. I don't think I oversmokes. I place it in top of a steel mesh drawer organizer that I found at Walmart. It's a Mainstays Mesh Organizer 2" x 3" x 9" (long and narrow, just like the tube smoker). You have to remove the four rubber feet from the bottom or the mesh organizer. I place it INVERTED on the left side of the bottom drip pan with the 9" dimension running front to back. I then lay the lit tube smoker on top of the inverted mesh organizer. I remove the MB chip loader and get a good draft of TBS that keeps the pellets lit. My burn time is about what AMAZEN states for the tube smoker.

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Sounds like the tube is working good for you, as long as the smoke isn't too heavy.

 

When I tried the Tube in my Gen #1, I got too much (Heavy) smoke, so I always used the AMNPS in it. That was Perfect.

 

Now I get very light smoke with the AMNPS in my Gen #2.5. I think I'll give the Tube a try in that one.

 

Thanks for your post,

Bear

post #143 of 149

So I tried the new MES 30 again last weekend and the temperature fluctuation is even worse than my older MES!!!! The temp is off by at least 30 degress and it swings up and down when the element turns on or off by30 degrees and more. Why cant anyone make a decent smoker that heats and smokes the right wa, instead of having to use all these attachments, stand alone smokers, etc?

post #144 of 149
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So I tried the new MES 30 again last weekend and the temperature fluctuation is even worse than my older MES!!!! The temp is off by at least 30 degress and it swings up and down when the element turns on or off by30 degrees and more. Why cant anyone make a decent smoker that heats and smokes the right wa, instead of having to use all these attachments, stand alone smokers, etc?


What is 30° off ??

Is the Maverick 30° different than the MES ? Then just set your MES accordingly to get what you want on your Maverick.

 

The other thing;

That swinging isn't really a fault of the smoker----The up swinging happens after the element shuts off.

And the Down Swinging happens after the element comes on.

Most MES units only do the big swings when you first start up for awhile, if you don't do anything to stop it.

Then once it's going for awhile it should settle down to a single digit swinging cycle.

 

I would imagine, like mine, yours comes on about one or two degrees below set temp, and shuts off at set temp. That's what it's supposed to do.

 

Hope this helps,

Bear

post #145 of 149
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What is 30° off ??

Is the Maverick 30° different than the MES ? Then just set your MES accordingly to get what you want on your Maverick.

 

The other thing;

That swinging isn't really a fault of the smoker----The up swinging happens after the element shuts off.

And the Down Swinging happens after the element comes on.

Most MES units only do the big swings when you first start up for awhile, if you don't do anything to stop it.

Then once it's going for awhile it should settle down to a single digit swinging cycle.

 

I would imagine, like mine, yours comes on about one or two degrees below set temp, and shuts off at set temp. That's what it's supposed to do.

 

Hope this helps,

Bear


30 degrees different from what the smokers set to and what the actual temperature inside is

post #146 of 149
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30 degrees different from what the smokers set to and what the actual temperature inside is


That's what I thought.

That's Pretty Normal.

 

I like to put my Maverick ET-732 within a few inches of the meat, and ignore what the MES says.

Then if the MES is 30° under the real temp, I just adjust my MES to make the Maverick Temp what I want.

Mine is usually 10° to 15° off.

 

 

Bear

post #147 of 149
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30 degrees different from what the smokers set to and what the actual temperature inside is

I would contact Masterbuilt.  Their customer service is outstanding.

 

I have an MES 40 and only have single digit swings - often no more than than +/- 3F.  

 

Side note on the MES 40 - I hated the glass in the door but had no other option.  After 2 smokes...it was roached, never to be cleaned again. However, I did not realize the glass in the door had an upside... the glassed door is less insulated than a solid door causing the heating element to cycle more often resulting in a better, more even smoke using their manual chip feeder.

post #148 of 149

Just spit balling here but do you have the smoker set up where the sun can shine in the window ? I've read on here that this can throw off temps, coupled with the thought of clouds moving in front of the sun could possibly account for mad temp swings.

 Just thinking out loud.

post #149 of 149
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Just spit balling here but do you have the smoker set up where the sun can shine in the window ? I've read on here that this can throw off temps, coupled with the thought of clouds moving in front of the sun could possibly account for mad temp swings.

 Just thinking out loud.


I think you're talking about this (Below), but that shouldn't have much effect on the Temp Swings.

Link:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/101749/mes-with-window-heads-up

 

 

But like I said:

Other than the initial start-up, or after opening the door:

That swinging isn't really a fault of the smoker----The up swinging happens after the element shuts off.

And the Down Swinging happens after the element comes on.

 

 

Bear

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