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post #21 of 27
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Those dimmers would work great.  From what I have looked at they are more than building a PID controller, but hit up Dave I bet he would know best where to get them.

 

I agree with the thought that those chinese SCR's are going to need cooling.  Likely want to mount it in a suitable electrical box and add a cooling fan to it since you will be running it hours on end.  Oh and put it somewhere safe when you use it the first 5-10 times, you really need to get comfortable with anything you use.  

 

as far as those items you listed from amazon I would just pick up the one with the best rating.  

post #22 of 27
To provide some clarity about the dimmer switch... It doesn't control the temperature... It adjusts the heat like you would on a gas burner... As the smoker temp and meat temp rises, the dimmer needs to be turned to a lower setting to maintain a desired temperature...
The temperature rise, at the start, is really slow and easy to adjust...
post #23 of 27
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Here is the incandescent Dimmer Switch I used.... 1500 watt.... been in use for over 4 years...

Thank you Dave. Can you elaborate on what you all needed for this and what electric element/smoker you use this with? Thanks

 

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Originally Posted by RadioGuy View Post

Dave has it covered. Cheap reliable. I have an electric with a "frypan" adjustable control. It needs constant attention. Will replace it with a PID when it burns out. Let your buddy know this, maybe he'll want to spend the $$ for a PID.

RG

RG, can you elaborate on your setup? I am assuming your "electric with a "frypan" adjustable control" is similar to the 2 I posted above?

 

 

What I am looking for is either: A) add a way to control the stock 1500 watt element in my E-ECB, or B) replace the stock element with one that already has some sort of control.

I want this to be fairly simple to assemble and set up, and I would like it to be fairly inexpensive.

 

These are the options I have heard of or come up with:

1)  PID - build one with help, or buy a plug and play - more money than I really want to spend - best results?

2)  Analog dial control that this thread started about(Punter, sorry for hijacking) - not sure how to set it up - cost? - results?

3)  Dial dimmer switch - not sure how to set it up - cost? - results?

4)  Adjustable replacement element - simple replacement - $30 to $40 - results?

5)  Give up on control and just use E-ECB as is - no work - no money - good Q

6) Someday....get a nice electric smoker that doesn't really need mods.

 

Thank you all for the help and advice. Link to my thread so I can stop hijacking this one!

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/236596/pid-advice-and-help

 

Sorry again Punter!!! If the PID wins out, but I don't think it will :th_crybaby2: I will be back for your help!

 

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What temperature range is everyone able to achieve with their different setups? Please list control unit, electric element/smoker, and temps for comparison. Thank you!!

post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by 4PoGo7 View Post
 

Thank you Dave. Can you elaborate on what you all needed for this and what electric element/smoker you use this with? Thanks

 

RG, can you elaborate on your setup? I am assuming your "electric with a "frypan" adjustable control" is similar to the 2 I posted above?

 

 

What I am looking for is either: A) add a way to control the stock 1500 watt element in my E-ECB, or B) replace the stock element with one that already has some sort of control.

I want this to be fairly simple to assemble and set up, and I would like it to be fairly inexpensive.

 

These are the options I have heard of or come up with:

1)  PID - build one with help, or buy a plug and play - more money than I really want to spend - best results?

2)  Analog dial control that this thread started about(Punter, sorry for hijacking) - not sure how to set it up - cost? - results?

3)  Dial dimmer switch - not sure how to set it up - cost? - results?

4)  Adjustable replacement element - simple replacement - $30 to $40 - results?

5)  Give up on control and just use E-ECB as is - no work - no money - good Q

6) Someday....get a nice electric smoker that doesn't really need mods.

 

Thank you all for the help and advice. Link to my thread so I can stop hijacking this one!

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/236596/pid-advice-and-help

 

Sorry again Punter!!! If the PID wins out, but I don't think it will :th_crybaby2: I will be back for your help!

 

***edit***

What temperature range is everyone able to achieve with their different setups? Please list control unit, electric element/smoker, and temps for comparison. Thank you!!

 

 

no worries I got what I needed out of it, it is all yours!  

 

Options 2-3-4 are basically the same.  Use an analog dial (dimmer/pwm/etc) to power the element. 

 

Option 6 - You can make that sucker into a great smoker.  Add some thermal mass (bricks/sand) to that thing and it will really even out the temps.  My smoker is just a big clay flower pot with a 1000W element and a pid it works great.  I attached a motivational picture, maybe it'll help you get it wrapped up and rolling!  

 

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post #26 of 27
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no worries I got what I needed out of it, it is all yours!  

 

Options 2-3-4 are basically the same.  Use an analog dial (dimmer/pwm/etc) to power the element. 

 

Option 6 - You can make that sucker into a great smoker.  Add some thermal mass (bricks/sand) to that thing and it will really even out the temps.  My smoker is just a big clay flower pot with a 1000W element and a pid it works great.  I attached a motivational picture, maybe it'll help you get it wrapped up and rolling!  

 

That is some great motivation, and I am very impressed with your flower pot smoker!

 

I am thinking option 4. That is that one I keep coming back to after getting more help and advice on other options. It's simple and it should do what I need it to. Might take more practice and time/monitoring but that just means I get to spend more time smoking!

 

Like I said before though, if the PID is in my future I will be back! We will just have to see where this modding adventure takes me and how far and crazy I go!

 

Thanks! 

 

 

Dave, that sir is very impressive! Most of it is above my understanding on how to use it and why it works, but I totally get what it does and that it does work very well!

 

I think I will be going another route though. A little more indepth than I am wanting and possibly more money too. Thank you those for sharing and great work!

post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by punter9 View Post
 

Option 6 - You can make that sucker into a great smoker.  Add some thermal mass (bricks/sand) to that thing and it will really even out the temps.  My smoker is just a big clay flower pot with a 1000W element and a pid it works great.  I attached a motivational picture, maybe it'll help you get it wrapped up and rolling!  

I know, I know, I keep changing my mind…..ugh. I am going with a PID. (your option 6 of making it a great smoker) This is my final decision! Dward51 talked me into it, and it wasn’t even that hard lol. He made some really good points on my other thread. Now I am just trying to decide if I want to build or buy.

 

Could I please get you to jump over there with all your knowledge and help? That way I have all my PID info in one thread that is actually about PID help. Also if anyone does a search looking for PID info it will be in the right place.

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/236596/pid-advice-and-help

 

I am going to need to pick your brain and have you walk me through this if I do a build. Thanks

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