Any thoughts about these two smokers from those who have them?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
PS Any one in the Red White & Que/Cresskill completion will be using either one?
Edited by DanBono - 9/7/15 at 5:39am
Not too long ago, I was considering both of these options as well--Yoder of Lang. In the end I went with the Lang cause I wanted the hybrid so I would also have the char grill.
Positives for the Lang -- the standard model has a second sliding shelf, the reverse flow means you won't have to choose a convection plate as an add-on, and I think it has a slightly larger cooking capacity. It is very easy to get going and use.
Positives for the Yoder -- the fit & finish looks a bit better (in the pictures at least) than the Lang.
Minuses for the Lang -- the temp varies from one side of the cooker to the other by about 20-25 degrees and I can't seem to change this characteristic. My guess is that the 36 cooking chamber is just smaller, so 25% of your cooking surface is very near the firebox. And the closer to the firebox, it's just going to be hotter, even with the reverse flow plate. This is just my experience. I'm guessing perhaps the smaller Yoder will be similar.
Minuses for the Yoder - Dunno know, never used one.
In the end, I LOVE cooking on the Lang 36 and find it very easy to use and would recommend it. Like I said, I got it cause of the whole hybrid/char-grill. For me the choice was between this and the loaded Witchita, which I am sure I would have loved as well. But, my family does a lot of grilling too, so just having a big smoker didn't make as much sense.
Anyway -- I think you'll be happy with either choice. The Yoders look great.
I just bought the Lang 36 Patio. I also considered the Yoder but the Wichita not the Cheyenne. I think the Wichita is more close to the Lang. I chose the Lang because of the reverse flow, 1/4" plate, firebox design, value, and a large customer base that is almost cult following. To me the Cheyenne is not a good alternative.
The Lang is easy to use and the cleaning is amazingly easy. I only have a few cooks on it but I can tell the flavor is different and better than my vertical charcoal smoker. I have to say the attention to the smoker is significant -- you can't set it and forget it.
You do need to consider the shipping costs. It was more than I expected but they did a great job and delivered to my door. I couldn't go get for that price.
You will love the LANG!
Yeah, just to reiterate. I have no regrets in buying a Lang, and despite the initial "gulp" of the shipping costs, I do not regret the decision whatsoever. Given the epoch this will last and the amount of cooking i will be doing on it over time, the shipping costs are part of the investment.
To be honest, I don't think shipping for me of a Yoder or a Horizon would have been that much cheaper. All these pit makers are quite far from NJ. And Meadow Creek, which is closer, is just to $$$$$ comparatively.
You can't set and forget a Lang, but I will say that after a summer of smoking cooking quite a bit, once you get the hang of the Lang, you add a log every now and then, adjust the vents a bit and its pretty easy going. There is a little bit of a learning curve, but once you get the hang of fire management, its quite easy.
My initial mistake was using larger splits, Now I use chunks of apple or oak cut down to a soda can size, add one or two maybe every 45 minutes and just let it roll. Maintaining a clear stack is easy, and it's not that much trouble to run.
Like I said, I'm sure you'll be happy with the Yoder if you go that route, but as Bayou mentioned, I think the Lang is probably somewhere between the Wichita and Cheyenne in size. And trust the old adage -- whatever size you think you need, you need the next one bigger.
I've had my Lang 36" patio all summer, and yes shipping charges are steep, but
you'll forget about that after your first couple of smokes. I'm still a nub and each
cook gets easier. She warms up easy and once there is easy to maintain. I can't compare the Yoder
as I have no first hand knowledge, but I don't regret getting the Lang.
For me, I'd get the Lang just because it's reverse flow and has the griddle plate underneath the cooking grate. This helps keep the temps evened out as well as sears the fat/drippings which adds to the flavor of the meat. When I had my Old Country Wrangler, the firebox side was way hotter than the stack side, which is the case with pretty much all offset smokers, but even more so for a direct flow smoker. You will be happy with either one, just go as big as you can so you don't want to upgrade later on. Also, look on craigslist for a nice used one, that's how I found my Lang 48 patio, and I saved a ton of money.
Hi All Still NOT sure which smoker I'm going with. I have some time to decide,won't be ordering till after winter season here in North NJ,until then I have to put my COS/ Smoke N Pit to good use. Both smokers have some things that appeal to me. Like to hear from some more of those have smoked with them.
PS One my main concern is temps from side to side?
love my Yoder Cheyenne, My first offset, so I can't really compare it to anything else.. That said, I can't find anything negative to say about it.. From its looks to heat stability to the delicious foods that comes out of it.. Just a great piece of craftsmanship.. you wont be disappointed