MES 40 Problems

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The guy in this video had the same problem. The unit was set at 250 and would not get over 230 or less. This is the coil replacement video but there are three others documenting his dealings with MB Customer service. See the link to the video if it does not come up following the install...JJ 



 
If I remove the water pan and put the AMNPs right where the hole is, would that cause the same issue?  Or should I put the AMNPs on the first rack, which would limit the use of that rack, right?
 
 
If I remove the water pan and put the AMNPs right where the hole is, would that cause the same issue?  Or should I put the AMNPs on the first rack, which would limit the use of that rack, right?
I would put the AMNPS over the hole. The heat can still get around it, but it can't get through the solid drip plate.

The heat stacks up under that plate & then rises (like heat always does). Then when it hits the plate, it goes to the right because the right is higher. Then eventually it leaks around the front & back of the right end of the plate. That's why the right side is hotter than the left.

This was the biggest problem I found with the Gen #2, and I told them about it. They got rid of it in the #2.5. I also told them to put the same top vent as the Gen #1 has, but put it on the top left, instead of the top right. They did that too.

Bear
 
Thanks Bear!  That all makes sense and I wish I could purchase a Gen 2.5 and just get rid of this one. 

I have a real itch to smoke something this weekend but won't have the controller for a few days.  :(  I guess I can still smoke something at lower temp. 
 
 
Thanks Bear!  That all makes sense and I wish I could purchase a Gen 2.5 and just get rid of this one. 

I have a real itch to smoke something this weekend but won't have the controller for a few days.  :(  I guess I can still smoke something at lower temp. 
You didn't run into me before you bought it.

I was recommending people to buy the Gen #1, or wait & see if the Gen #2.5 is a good one.

However there seems to be a few Ge #2 owners that are happy, at least so far. 

BTW: I very seldom use heat higher than 240° for nearly everything. My point was you should be "Able" to get to 275°.

Bear
 
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Wish I had run into you then! 

I'm very new to smoking and have only tried a couple of times and results were not very good.  What would you suggest I try with my sub-optimal smoker this weekend that I can use with regular wood chips (I'm out of pellets) and is good for, say feeding 2-4 people?
 
 
Wish I had run into you then! 

I'm very new to smoking and have only tried a couple of times and results were not very good.  What would you suggest I try with my sub-optimal smoker this weekend that I can use with regular wood chips (I'm out of pellets) and is good for, say feeding 2-4 people?
How about a Smoked Pork Butt "Boston Butt".

Here's how I do mine (Step by Step):

Pulled Boston Pork Butt  

They don't have to be that big.

They are very forgiving.

Bear
 
Pork Butt is good, like Bear said forgiving  and TASTY !

Gary
 
After you check out Bears Pulled Boston pork butt, Click on "Bears step by steps" at the bottom of his post. The man has hooked us up good with SO many smoking tutorials! Thanks again Bear, David.
 
After you check out Bears Pulled Boston pork butt, Click on "Bears step by steps" at the bottom of his post. The man has hooked us up good with SO many smoking tutorials! Thanks again Bear, David.
Thank You David!!

Always glad when I can help make something easier.

Guys like you are fun to help.

Bear
 
I've got Bear's Buck Board bacon and pulled smoked ham curing in the fridge as we speak, 

Gary
 
Thanks guys!  You have given me soo many ideas!

I have a bunch of frozen meat, some really nice ones too that I didn't bother vacuum sealing. :(  I hope they haven't all been ruined because of freezer burn or weird stench.  They've been in the freezer a looong time. LOL
 
 
You didn't run into me before you bought it.

I was recommending people to buy the Gen #1, or wait & see if the Gen #2.5 is a good one.

However there seems to be a few Ge #2 owners that are happy, at least so far. 

BTW: I very seldom use heat higher than 240° for nearly everything. My point was you should be "Able" to get to 275°.

Bear
I plan on smoking at 250° this year. Jted likes 242° and last year I liked 235°. Why have you chosen 240°?

Also I know you use a heat deflector to counteract that right side hot spot inside your MES 40, I believe. Isn't it a ceramic floor tile? I bought one a couple of years ago to put in my MES 30 but then I read how those tiles tend to warp the MES doors so I've never used it. How do you avoid that happening with your smoker, Bear?
 
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I plan on smoking at 250° this year. Jted likes 242° and last year I liked 235°. Why have you chosen 240°?

Also I know you use a heat deflector to counteract that right side hot spot inside your MES 40, I believe. Isn't it a ceramic floor tile? I bought one a couple of years ago to put in my MES 30 but then I read how those tiles tend to warp the MES doors so I've never used it. How do you avoid that happening with your smoker, Bear?
I didn't really choose 240°. When I typed that I thought about all my smokes, and I don't think I ever used a higher temp than 240°, except chicken thighs, and I believe I used 250° for them & finished them at 275°.

I originally laid a big piece of tile flat over the right side, and I almost blew it up. So I cut a piece of aluminum, and I elevate the left side so heat doesn't get trapped. The higher I raise the left side, the more heat gets shifted to the left. If I get too much to the left, I lower the left side, or slide the whole thing a quarter or half inch away from the right wall.

Bear
 
 
You didn't run into me before you bought it.

I was recommending people to buy the Gen #1, or wait & see if the Gen #2.5 is a good one.

However there seems to be a few Ge #2 owners that are happy, at least so far. 

BTW: I very seldom use heat higher than 240° for nearly everything. My point was you should be "Able" to get to 275°.

Bear
I'm thinking of trying 250
 
I didn't really choose 240°. When I typed that I thought about all my smokes, and I don't think I ever used a higher temp than 240°, except chicken thighs, and I believe I used 250° for them & finished them at 275°.

I originally laid a big piece of tile flat over the right side, and I almost blew it up. So I cut a piece of aluminum, and I elevate the left side so heat doesn't get trapped. The higher I raise the left side, the more heat gets shifted to the left. If I get too much to the left, I lower the left side, or slide the whole thing a quarter or half inch away from the right wall.

Bear
Note to self: forget the ceramic tile. You mean you cut a piece off an aluminum sheet? If so, what did you cut it with? I know something about using hand tools around the house and something about working on much older cars but when it comes to buying and cutting aluminum I'm in the dark there.

As I've written before, I haven't really investigated the hot spot(s) in my MES 30 but I plan to do it this year so for my own knowledge. Typically I'm a set-and-forget-it smoker except for the foiling.

And you're using the MES 40 Gen 1?

Also, I haven't come across a recipe that calls for raising the temp late in the smoke so I've never done that. I've seen a couple of TV shows where chefs will smoke or grill meat and then finish it a hot kitchen oven so that they can control the final IT. I haven't done that either because I like to cook everything in one place and besides, my smoker and grill are outside and I never feel like taking that meat and walking it into my kitchen.
 
 
Note to self: forget the ceramic tile. You mean you cut a piece off an aluminum sheet? If so, what did you cut it with? I know something about using hand tools around the house and something about working on much older cars but when it comes to buying and cutting aluminum I'm in the dark there. I get the Aluminum from my Son. It comes in 12' sheets for cable tray covers for Cell towers. It's a little thicker than a credit card, and I cut it with a set of Tin Snips (Very carefully).

As I've written before, I haven't really investigated the hot spot(s) in my MES 30 but I plan to do it this year so for my own knowledge. Typically I'm a set-and-forget-it smoker except for the foiling. The hotter right side isn't as bad in an MES 30 as it is in an MES 40, because the distance from left to right is shorter in the MES 30. So you wouldn't need as wide a piece of Aluminum for a deflector in the MES 30, if you need one at all.

And you're using the MES 40 Gen 1?  Yes.

Also, I haven't come across a recipe that calls for raising the temp late in the smoke so I've never done that. I've seen a couple of TV shows where chefs will smoke or grill meat and then finish it a hot kitchen oven so that they can control the final IT. I haven't done that either because I like to cook everything in one place and besides, my smoker and grill are outside and I never feel like taking that meat and walking it into my kitchen. I only do that with Chicken to get a longer time smoking, and then up to 275° to crisp up the skin at the end. You can see it in my Chicken Thighs Step by Step.
Bear
 
This was a great response, Bear. Very helpful. I didn't know that about the MES 30.

Darn it all. I thought you'd finally given me a use for my tin snips. Oh well, once again I play the waiting game.

Makes total sense about the chicken. I've smoked a turkey breast (that we'd had in the freezer for two years) in my MES but not any chicken. There's just way too much beef and pork and cheese in the world. And salmon, too.
 
 
This was a great response, Bear. Very helpful. I didn't know that about the MES 30.

Darn it all. I thought you'd finally given me a use for my tin snips. Oh well, once again I play the waiting game.

Makes total sense about the chicken. I've smoked a turkey breast (that we'd had in the freezer for two years) in my MES but not any chicken. There's just way too much beef and pork and cheese in the world. And salmon, too.
That was not to say a deflector wouldn't help in an MES 30. It's just not as bad a problem as in an MES 40, because the 40 is wider, which means the right side hot spot is farther to the right, and needs more of a deflection to get the heat to the middle of the smoker.

Bear
 
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