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What kind of tape hold up in a smoker? I've seen foil tape and I think I've even seen really thinn stainless steel tape. Do you use one of these? Also, Do you put your meat on this rack? Or a rack below this one so that the tips of the probes would be even with the top of the meat?
If I'm only using one rack, it will be the one that the probe sticks through, so the tip of the probe is about 2" to 3" below the meat, and not touching the metal rack too close to the tip of the probe. This is plenty close, because I don't want the cold meat to effect my Therms.

I use colored electrical tape, but I tape the probe cables on the "Outside" of the top of the smoker (See Pic Below)---Not the inside Ceiling of the smoker.

The tape didn't stick as good on my old "Black" MES 30, but really sticks Great to the SS top of my MES 40.

2 Probe cables under one piece of Yellow tape. Two other reserve pieces of tape stuck to top.

Maverick units laying on far side (cooler side) of top:

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So far I like what I see.

I haven't seen much yet, but they turned some of the suggestions I gave them into reality.

It's easy to see they're trying to make up for the Gen #2 & it's problems.

I told them to get rid of the left "side" vent & move it to the top left, opposite where the Gen #1 vent is.  They did.

I told them to turn the interior into something close to the interior of the Gen #1, and get rid of that stupid long slanted drip plate that traps heat on the right side. They Did.

I told them to keep it hinged left like the Gen #2, instead of hinged right like the Gen #1. They Did.

I told them to go back to the digital controls being in an easy to replace box like the Gen #1. I can't really tell by the pics how easy it is to replace, but if it doesn't have problems like the Gen #2 had, it may not need replacing.

So I wouldn't be so quick to condemn it. It could be even better than the Gen #1.  We'll see!!

Just my 2 cents.

Bear
Hey Bear are they going to give you one to trial for them?.

If these company's had any sense at all they would survey those people who use their products and build what the customer wants/recommends.

For what it's worth there's my rant.
 
 
You got it Rick!!

Well the MES 40 element is not actually closer to the right side, but farther from the middle & the left side than in the MES 30.

Bear
What I gather from all this is that while my MES 30 is squeezed for cooking space, I'm also spared quite a few hassles that come with the MES 30 Gen 1. More than likely if/when I'm ready to replace my smoker I'll choose one of the new MES 40s since they'll still be more affordable than any other quality electric smoker.
 
 
Yes.  Your 30" Gen 1 is more centered than the 40" by design (volume.)  As well as 400 less watts from the heating element.  Gen 1's have more metal shrouding, incasing the chip tray than the Gen 2 and 2.5.  This holds more heat in the right rear corner.  But, I prefer to customize heat distribution than the newer placement of the top vents and sensors in the model Gen 2 and 2.5.  The Gen 1 is the only MB smoker of the three that has a housing, completely enclosing the chip tray.  The left side of the chip tray housing has holes in a triangle, stoking the AMNPS.  Look up from underneath the triangle of holes and you'll find three more vent holes pointing down towards the drip pan.  Air is brought in through the chip loader hole to the center of the smoker before it disperses.  I had to deny MB three times on the Gen 2 offer.  The BT 2.5 was never offered but I was sticking to the Gen 1 for spare parts.

-Kurt    
How do I even see the triangle of holes?
 
This would work as well and not look as silly as the denture brush (I know, I'm vain when it comes to my smoker!):

This and the suggestion from Brickguy221 look good. I'll check to see if Lowe's carries this. OXO is a popular brand for kitchen gadgets and they make some of our favorites.
 
 
Not that I know of:

By that I mean that since the whole interior of mine now has a Beautiful Smelling Black coating that wouldn't allow me to see that if it was a there.

It looks like yours is a Gen #2.5, and I would guess that you had a pile of wood chips that had a pretty good flame going on in there, but I can't say for sure.

I believe an AMNPS would keep that from happening again.

Bear
I put in a call this morning, sent some pictures directly to a customer service agent, and now waiting to hear back.. I'll let y'al know what I find out! 

Ps. Ordered my AMPS today! Cant wait to use it! Hope I don't have to wait a couple weeks if my smoker is deemed "unsafe" by Masterbuilt
 
So, I ordered my AMPS for my 2.5 yen BT 40' smoker. From what I have read and remember:

1) Put it on the bottom left side of smoker.

2) Need to elevate it a bit to get good air flow all the way around

3) Pull out the chip dumper a few inches, and place in "dump" position.

Anything else??
 
 
So, I ordered my AMPS for my 2.5 yen BT 40' smoker. From what I have read and remember:

1) Put it on the bottom left side of smoker.

2) Need to elevate it a bit to get good air flow all the way around

3) Pull out the chip dumper a few inches, and place in "dump" position.

Anything else??
I'll let someone with a Gen #2.5 answer you on this, as I don't have to play the chip dumper pulling game with my Gen #1.

Bear
 
 
So, I ordered my AMPS for my 2.5 yen BT 40' smoker. From what I have read and remember:

1) Put it on the bottom left side of smoker.

2) Need to elevate it a bit to get good air flow all the way around

3) Pull out the chip dumper a few inches, and place in "dump" position.

Anything else??
I have the 2.5 BT 40" Smoker. What you listed is basically what I do. On my last 2 smokes, I sat a bean can with both ends cut out over the vent on top. I don't know if it does anything beneficial or not, so maybe it is my eyes playing tricks, but it appears there is a bit more smoke coming out that way.
 
 
This would work. I'm going to see if I can find it in the supermarkets. Also want to check out that grout brush.

Rick, the brand name on mine is GUM, but looks exactly like the ones on Amazon. So identical that who ever makes them probably makes them for both places, maybe???  I find it at my local Grocery Store. Some Wal-Mart stores have them also
 
 
I have the 2.5 BT 40" Smoker. What you listed is basically what I do. On my last 2 smokes, I sat a bean can with both ends cut out over the vent on top. I don't know if it does anything beneficial or not, so maybe it is my eyes playing tricks, but it appears there is a bit more smoke coming out that way.
Keep an eye on that, especially in the Winter.

I did that can routine a long time ago, and condensation formed inside the can, ran down the can & dripped inside (below) my top vent.

I wouldn't want that Yuck to drip on my meat.

Bear
 
Thanks Bear. I will watch it.  Does the can really do anything for it, like increase the draft, do you know? I keep trying to figure out if it does or not.
 
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I wanted to update you guys on how my fantasy football draft party went. First and foremost I want to thank everyone for your suggestions and help. I was really worried about the pulled pork getting dried out if I made it a few days in advance and reheated it, so I decided to just smoke them throughout the night before. I had about a 10 pound and a 7 pound boston butt. I put them on at 9:00 Saturday night and they reached an IT of 205F at about 3:15 on Sunday afternoon. They took a lot longer than I thought they would (I estimated 12-15 hours and they took about 18.5) but they were very good and were extremely tender. I wrapped the 10 pound butt in foil when it reached 165F and I let the smaller one cook on the grate without foil throughout. Both were good but I think from now on I'm not going to foil. Both were plenty juicy and I really liked the crispness of the bark on the smaller butt. Also I noticed my Maverick and the MES40 temperatures vary greatly at times. Sometimes they read the same temperature, but a lot of times they can vary by 20-30 degrees. Does anyone know why that would happen? Thank you again for all your help everyone!
 
 
Thanks Bear. I will watch it.  Does the can really do anything for it, like increase the draft, do you know? I keep trying to figure out if it does or not.
It may help the draft, but when I put the can on, I did it to see if it would help keep the wind from sucking the heat out of the vent.

Bear
I wanted to update you guys on how my fantasy football draft party went. First and foremost I want to thank everyone for your suggestions and help. I was really worried about the pulled pork getting dried out if I made it a few days in advance and reheated it, so I decided to just smoke them throughout the night before. I had about a 10 pound and a 7 pound boston butt. I put them on at 9:00 Saturday night and they reached an IT of 205F at about 3:15 on Sunday afternoon. They took a lot longer than I thought they would (I estimated 12-15 hours and they took about 18.5) but they were very good and were extremely tender. I wrapped the 10 pound butt in foil when it reached 165F and I let the smaller one cook on the grate without foil throughout. Both were good but I think from now on I'm not going to foil. Both were plenty juicy and I really liked the crispness of the bark on the smaller butt. Also I noticed my Maverick and the MES40 temperatures vary greatly at times. Sometimes they read the same temperature, but a lot of times they can vary by 20-30 degrees. Does anyone know why that would happen? Thank you again for all your help everyone!
It's hard to say, unless you watch it closely and see how both the Mav & the MES temps are cycling. One of the reasons is that the Maverick is more sensitive than the MES sensor, so the cycles are often bigger in both directions, and the MES therm is slower to react, so that would account for the variation. You could look at it one minute & they're close. Then 3 minutes later they could be 15° different than each other.

What you want is to get the middle of the Maverick swing range to the temp you want, and ignore what your MES reads, except for moving it up or down to get your Maverick to where you want your heat.

Hope this helps,

Bear
 
 
Rick, the brand name on mine is GUM, but looks exactly like the ones on Amazon. So identical that who ever makes them probably makes them for both places, maybe???  I find it at my local Grocery Store. Some Wal-Mart stores have them also
Thanks, Jim. I'm familiar with the GUM brand name. When we do our grocery shopping this weekend I'll look for this brush.
 
 
How do I even see the triangle of holes?
 
Open the smoker and look at the left side of the chip tray housing that is next to the AMNPS.  Pull out the chip loader and look through the hole at them.  Then there are holes underneath looking up from the bottom under the triangle of holes.

-Kurt 
 
 
 
Open the smoker and look at the left side of the chip tray housing that is next to the AMNPS.  Pull out the chip loader and look through the hole at them.  Then there are holes underneath looking up from the bottom under the triangle of holes.

-Kurt 
NOW I can visualize it. The next time I wheel my smoker out from the garage I'm going to do this. I just never think of this stuff so I've never thought to look through the chip loader through the hole. In a few weeks I'm going to smoke a couple of baby backs and that's when I'll take a look-see.
 
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