Hello jockaneezer. I think right now I'd prefer the grenade. I hope I don't fall on my *** cause it's gonna be hanging out there. There may not be many notes to take Graeme; I've shot my mouth off enough, I won't be using any therms. I still don't own one. Have had one smoke with the new Weber, hoping for another this weekend. Is a little quirky just like every new smoker but will get there. The MAIN concern I have is getting that brisket done and ready for the feast. We shall see what we shall see. Keep Smokin!