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Pricing the cost of roasting a hog
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How much is your time worth to you? Is she also supplying the fuel? How good of a friend? Why type of smoker are you using (can effect the amount of time and fuel needed)
From my experience, a 100 pound hog is going to take a minimum of 12 hours, not including prep time. Fuel cost will on my reverse flow was about 40 pounds of charcoal and 15-25 splits of wood, depending on the ambient temp. It starts adding up quickly.
Now with that being said, I have done them for friends, good friends, damn near feel like family friends, for just the cost of the hog and fuel. And they were required to sit out with me and feed the fire. Turned out to be a good time had by all.
So I said all that to say, assuming she is the type of friend in the previous paragraph, $500 for the 100 pounder. The bigger the more expensive. (and that's cheap)
There are a lot of variables in that equations that make me nervous. The last thing I would want to do is a reception for 150 people on a new smoker cooking a meat I have never cooked.
Will there be other meats? Is this a pig picking?
If you are charging, people are going to have expectations. If this is your first rodeo, I would pick a smaller bull. :-)
What he said.
There is a saying in my world, "No plan survives first contact." Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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I give you credit for considering such a big challenge but here is a few things to consider...
Unless you have some cool tricks up your sleave, you will not be able to have or keep the Loins at 145° while the Hams and Shoulders get to 195°, you need more like 200 to 205° for pulling and the least amount of waste. A Reverse Flow smoker is really good at maintaining even heat across the whole unit. So even with the Sausage Stuffing, great idea for moisture retention by the way, the whole hog will see the same temps end to end. To even try to get different temps in the loin and the rest of the hog, you need a set up where you can have a hotter bed of coals under the shoulders and hams while having no or very little heat under the loins. Additionally cooking to an IT of 195°, I assume you are thinking about Slicing as at this IT it won't pull. Trying to slice will only give about a 30% yield. That is with a very sharp knife, excellent knife skills and LOTS of time. If the hog is the only meat, you will need about 250- 5 ounce portions for sandwiches, some will want 2. For Plated Sliced Pork you will need about 225-8 ounce portions. Here is the Math...
Sliced and Plated Pork...225 Portions X 8 ounces ea. = 1800 ounces / 16 ounces per Lb = 112.5 Pounds Cooked and Sliced Pork. 112.5 Pounds / .3 yield = 375 pounds of Raw Hog to feed 200 people!
Let's try Sandwiches... 250 portions X 5 oz ea. = 1250 oz. / 16 oz per Lb = 78 Pounds Cooked and sliced Pork. 78Lb / .3 yield = 260 pounds of Raw Hog to feed 200 people.
Lets go with Pulled Pork, with a 50% Yield...
PP Plated...225 portions X 8 oz ea = 1800 oz / 16 = 112.5 pounds cooked PP 112.5 Lbs / .5 yield = 225 Pounds of Raw Hog to feed 200 People.
PP Sandwiches...250 portions X 5 oz ea = 1250 oz / 16 = 78 pounds cooked PP 78 Lbs / .5 yield = 156 Pounds of Raw Hog to feed 200 People.
To sum it up. The Hogs need to be Headless as they are only of value for Pulled Pork...
Sliced and Plated you need to cook ...375 Pounds of Hog.
Sliced Sandwices you need to cook... 260 Pounds of Hog.
Pulled Pork, Plated you will need to cook....225 Pounds of Hog.
Pulled Pork Sandwiches you will need to cook...156 Pounds of Hog.
Is your Smoker going to handle this much meat?
Do you have the skill set to Smoke this much meat and keep the IT' s where you want 145° and 195°?
Can you Slice all that meat and have the equipment to Hold the meat Hot while you slice?
What are going to do with the 2/3 weight of Waste, that's good meat left on the bone as every part can't be sliced, bones, fat and skin?
Do you have or can Rent the number of Chafing Dishes to keep all this meat Hot while people are being served?
Pay wise, if your friend had this catered by a Pro, she would pay $25 and hour (4 hour Min) for each worker plus cost of Food and Equipment. If you want to do her a favor, charge $10 to $15 an hour. You are attempting a lot of work here...JJ
Edited by Chef JimmyJ - 5/27/14 at 3:33pm
I never do whole hog unless someone requests it. If they have a large crowd and want bbq then I'll always suggest useable meat with much less waste. But sometimes they just want the whole hog show so ten years later I still do 'em. You know, 10 butts, 10 chics, briskets, ribs, etc. to feed larger crowds are my preference. But whole piggy can be a bigger pain and certainly a bigger waste of dollars per pound than its worth. Again, I admire you for wanting to try but new cooker and first time at a very difficult task. You got some coconuts there, pal. I would definitely have an escape plan for yourself if 200 hungry people don't get fed. Because, like chef jj says, even if you get this perfect you are going to need a lot more meat. And, like I said before, you've done your homework on procedure but, damn! Keep us posted on this one, grasshopper.