MES40 (20072612 ) Smoker at sam's club, MES cold smoker mod pg 2

smokin raf · Mar 5, 2014

Getting ready to get an MES 40 gen II and a Maverick ET-733 temp probe (or two). A couple years ago I got a Grillpro Propane Cabinet Smoker and I’m in a windy area and have problems keeping the thing lit for low and slow so I’m hoping this smoker will work well despite some of the flaws. I'll be getting the warranty for the 2 years. My wife got some baby-back ribs. Getting the fever for smoking back after not doing much last year. Plus this winter has been too cold, minus 28°F was too cold for me

. I'm still kind of new at it but I'm on the right forum to get the info I need. Thanks to all who took time to put their experiences here to help us new guys out.

Bearcarver · Mar 8, 2014

Smokin Raf said:
Getting ready to get an MES 40 gen II and a Maverick ET-733 temp probe (or two). A couple years ago I got a Grillpro Propane Cabinet Smoker and I’m in a windy area and have problems keeping the thing lit for low and slow so I’m hoping this smoker will work well despite some of the flaws. I'll be getting the warranty for the 2 years. My wife got some baby-back ribs. Getting the fever for smoking back after not doing much last year. Plus this winter has been too cold, minus 28°F was too cold for me

. I'm still kind of new at it but I'm on the right forum to get the info I need. Thanks to all who took time to put their experiences here to help us new guys out.

No chance of you getting the one that works right??------ Gen #1 ???

Bear

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

Well I picked it up, Pre-seasoning it now. Anyone know where the sensor is for the box? I have a thermometer on the 2nd to the bottom Shelf close to a what looks like button on the back right and its reading 300°F while the display reads 240°F. Looks like I have a good one that reads low. I might let it get up to 305°F then I'll set the temperature set point to what its reading so it don't over heat.

jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

I have a 30 inch MES and I've had the same problems with temp running hot....as much as 50 degrees. First 6 times I used it it worked great....nice thin blue smoke. Now it overheats and my wood burns...so I contacted Masterbuilt.
They sent me a new unit. Said they thought the thermostat was bad. So...new unit came and it does the same thing...burns wood instead of smoking. Then they accidentally sent me a third unit. Not kidding...just showed up on my doorstep. Anyway I'm seasoning this third one as I post this but haven't put any chips in it yet. So far its only about 15 degrees hot.
I can't believe how well it worked and the great smoke I was getting from it the first six times I used it and now....it just burns wood. I've tried everything I can think of....soaking and not soaking. I tried cutting back some air by putting some foil in the chip loader to block the three holes....nope, didn't work.
I'm at a loss....anyone have any ideas???

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

I'm guessing you are seeing it worked the first few times but Are you setting it 15°F less than what you want. Mines reading 60°F lower than what it actually is. So if I want to the cabinet temp at 250°F then I'll set it around 190°F. Also I think I read somewhere to put some sand in the Square pan the wood chips go in to help with burning too fast. Maybe someone else can confirm this.

Update: Actually at a box temp if 215°F I'm at 250°F. So the amount it's off isn't linear. I might have to make a spreadsheet and set it at different temps the record the actual and the display. Seeing it could vary from the first time I do a smoke I might have to do this after every 5 smokes.

jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

I can deal with the temp variances. ..for the most part. Its the fact that its now a portable wood burning fireplace is my big problem. The sand may work...but its still baffling to me how it works great for the first six times and now...crap.
And for the record I've tried using two different GFCI outlets and of course....no extension cords.

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

I hear what your saying, I did a lot of reading before I bought mine. Its a gen 2 and I was ready for the flaws. I like the challenge

I just hope mine keeps reading low. If I have to many problems I might make an external box for the smoke. I've seen a few mods on here and YouTube so I have a idea what to do.

jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

Sad tho that ya drop a couple hundred bucks and have to make modifications. Saving up for a yoder pellet. ...all American made.

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

Well I got to the point of adding some chip in the pre-seasoning procedure and mine did like yours, smokin' like the Bandit. I don't have sand but I do have some pea gravel. I'm thinking the chips right on the metal of the pan is whats doing it. So after the seasoning I'll let it cool down and try that. I have some cheap country ribs I was going to do for the first smoke that way I don't waste a good cut of meat.

jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

I'm seriously considering buying an A-maze-in smoker tube and just using the MES as the heater...sucks but may be my only option.

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

I though about that too but I'd like to try to get the chips to work, I have a bunch of chips and to see if it works I have a bunch lump charcoal that I might try to see if I can get that smoke ring. Huh, did a search before I submitted and found this http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/135256/if-you-want-a-smoke-ring-with-your-mes-try-this

jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

yeah I know what you mean. I don't want to give up on the chips either but I'm starting to wonder if I'm ever going to make them work.I'm going to give it another try tomorrow to see if I can do something different to make the chips alone work. Good luck!

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

Well I'm smokin' and it looks like the pea gravel did the trick, took a little longer to start smokin' but now getting a good smoke, TBS. We'll see how it goes, I see about adding some pics'

jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

Awesome!!!! I miss the smell of TBS....

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

About 15 min into the smoke. I used some lump with soaked chips. Not much meat in it seeing its the first one, just to become one with my smoker.

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jbriggs · Mar 8, 2014

How much pea gravel did you use?

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

I just used enough to coat the bottom. Added more chips at about 40 min into the smoke, It's starting to smoke a little more than I'd like so I might add just a bit more pea gravel on the next smoke.

treym64 · Mar 8, 2014

I have mes 40 and no problems

smokin raf · Mar 8, 2014

TreyM64 said:
I have mes 40 and no problems

I have the gen II some people do and some don't.

I think I used to much lump Charcoal. After 2 hours of smokin' I wrapped meat in foil and took out the chip bin, the lump coal was cherry red and I think this caused my chips to smoke faster, next smoke I'll try with no lump. Anyway took a taste of a thin strip and it's pretty good. I mixed some apple Juice and Jack Daniels with the meat.

jbriggs · Mar 9, 2014

Trying to smoke today with a bit of sand in the bottom of the chip tray. Hopefully that's enough to keep my wood from burning....

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