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AMNS wont stay lit

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

 Okay guys a little help here. I bought an AMNS 6X8, did the mailbox mod. The AMNS burnt for a bit then went out. I added a fan (from a computer) to the rear of the mail box assuming I wasn't getting enough air flow. It stays lit longer but eventually goes out. It's been quite damp here in un-sunny SC the last week, so I'm guessing the humidity isn't helping things. I drilled 3 1/2 inch holes in the mail box lid to give it some air & I'm considering adding some holes to the bottom. any other suggestions?

 In advance Thanks,bluesbros.gif

post #2 of 19
Thread Starter 

I figured a visual would be helpful

post #3 of 19

It is hard to tell from the picture but is the dust only burning on the top?

post #4 of 19

When you light the start of your row. Let the flame burn for 10 minutes then blow it out. Blow on the little coals and try to get a nice cherry going on the bottom of the AMNS before putting it in your box. If your dust is moist, microwave it for a minute before using.

post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Woodcutter View Post

It is hard to tell from the picture but is the dust only burning on the top?

 

Upon inspection that doesn't seem to be an issue. I used a propane torch (my butane torch ran outta juice) so I know I got a good start the dust was glowing.

post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by Woodcutter View Post

When you light the start of your row. Let the flame burn for 10 minutes then blow it out. Blow on the little coals and try to get a nice cherry going on the bottom of the AMNS before putting it in your box. If your dust is moist, microwave it for a minute before using.

 

yeahthat.gif  Also, do you live at a higher elevation?  I've heard others say they have more problems keeping their amazens going in mountain areas.  It doesn't sound like an air flow problem...

 

Give Todd a holler and ask the expert.  He'll figure out your problem.  Good luck, let us know if you get it figured out...

 

Red

post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by SeenRed View Post

 

yeahthat.gif  Also, do you live at a higher elevation?  I've heard others say they have more problems keeping their amazens going in mountain areas.  It doesn't sound like an air flow problem...

 

Give Todd a holler and ask the expert.  He'll figure out your problem.  Good luck, let us know if you get it figured out...

 

Red

I live in coastal South Carolina I think I'm about 20 ft. above sea level. The humidity has been close to 80% this week. I keep my bags of dust sealed, so it's not moist when I put it in the AMNS but thats not to say it doen't absorb some moisture after it's in the mailbox. Potato chips get soggy in short order around here when the humidity is up.

post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by SmokinBerto View Post

I live in coastal South Carolina I think I'm about 20 ft. above sea level. The humidity has been close to 80% this week. I keep my bags of dust sealed, so it's not moist when I put it in the AMNS but thats not to say it doen't absorb some moisture after it's in the mailbox. Potato chips get soggy in short order around here when the humidity is up.

 

Ahh, that could do it...I have only used Todd's pellet smokers, so no direct experience with the dust, but I understand its performance is affected by humidity.  Ask Todd, I'll bet he can get you going...

 

Red

post #9 of 19

Try lowering the fan to the same level of the AMNS. It looks like air is only being pulled across the top of the dust. Did you nuke the dust or dry it in an oven before using it? You need much bigger holes for the intake. I'd enlarge those first to a 1" diameter and see what happens.


Edited by alelover - 5/5/13 at 5:26am
post #10 of 19

hello, i am thinking it is damp dust. will it keep burning if you don't put it in the mail box? if so it is air flow. if it won't you have damp dust. do a test burn outside of the box and see what happens.

happy smoken.

david

post #11 of 19

No cold smoke generator is the "end all" for every situation ,   If a smoke generator is going to be on the outside of a cooker there are much better alternatives....check out some of the sponsors for alternatives. 

post #12 of 19

Dry the dust well.... in the micro wave or in the oven @ 250 for an hour or longer....   Looks like the rows are not full of dust....  Fill the rows within 1/8" from the top..... a thin layer of dust may be the problem....  When the smoker is operating at smoking conditions, there should be a natural draft through the mailbox from the smoker... that way you wouldn't need the fan....  Your setup looks good....   Are those slots at the top of the smoker vents ??  are they open to allow a draft ??    

 

Dave

post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 

After some experimentation I believe it was a ventilation issue. I lit the AMNS let it smoke outside the malbox, burned up half the dust. Placed in the mail box (after enlarging the holes & adding a few more on the bottom & sides) turned on the fan & Wa La the remainder of the dust burned. I got 8#s on the way so I gotta figure this outhead-wall.gif

Do you pack the dust down or just spoon it in?

post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by SmokinBerto View Post

After some experimentation I believe it was a ventilation issue. I lit the AMNS let it smoke outside the malbox, burned up half the dust. Placed in the mail box (after enlarging the holes & adding a few more on the bottom & sides) turned on the fan & Wa La the remainder of the dust burned. I got 8#s on the way so I gotta figure this outhead-wall.gif

Do you pack the dust down or just spoon it in?

glad you got it going. the main trick. is to get it going good. i just fill it. i don't pack it. remember we wanna see pics

.happy smoken.

David

post #15 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinBerto View Post

After some experimentation I believe it was a ventilation issue. I lit the AMNS let it smoke outside the malbox, burned up half the dust. Placed in the mail box (after enlarging the holes & adding a few more on the bottom & sides) turned on the fan & Wa La the remainder of the dust burned. I got 8#s on the way so I gotta figure this outhead-wall.gif

Do you pack the dust down or just spoon it in?

I believe Todd recommends lightly packing the dust....  Are there recommendations in the directions that came with it ???  

post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by DaveOmak View Post

I believe Todd recommends lightly packing the dust....  Are there recommendations in the directions that came with it ???  

There weren't any directions102.gif

post #17 of 19
Todd recommends lightly packing the dust. Here are the instructions:
https://www.amazenproducts.com/v/vspfiles/downloadables/AmazenSmokerUserManual2.pdf
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 

Ok for starters thanks for all the input, most of it was useful. I ended up adding legs to the AMNS so I could get a little more airflow from underneath. Now it stays lit all the way through the cook. I'm not getting the heavier smoky flavor I was getting from the wood chips however. The AMNS just doesn't put out the volume of smoke I had with the more labor intensive adding wood chips every hour or so. I guess I could get a second AMNS & burn both at the same time. I haven't done a cost benefit analysis for wood chips vs dust. Anyone ?

post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by SmokinBerto View Post

Ok for starters thanks for all the input, most of it was useful. I ended up adding legs to the AMNS so I could get a little more airflow from underneath. Now it stays lit all the way through the cook. I'm not getting the heavier smoky flavor I was getting from the wood chips however. The AMNS just doesn't put out the volume of smoke I had with the more labor intensive adding wood chips every hour or so. I guess I could get a second AMNS & burn both at the same time. I haven't done a cost benefit analysis for wood chips vs dust. Anyone ?

You can lite Both ends. Or lit both ends and lit in the middle. You can also use 2 AMNS. Don't waste your time with a cost analysis.Don't know What the out come would be. But to not have to add chips every 20 min. Makes the AMNS or AMNPS the only way to fly in my Book.

Happy smoken.

David

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