First time Beef Rib Smoke Thoughts?

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jpsciacca

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Apr 1, 2013
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seymour, CT
I have been reading a lot of smoking tips here for a few years now.  I've been getting by with a Master Forge charcoal smoker for the last two years.  No air flow control, ash-clogged air intakes, and smoker envy has finally ended with a gift from the in-laws: the WSM 18.5.  

I finally had some good weather and decided to smoke this past weekend.  Picked up some beef ribs at the local Wal-mart and decided I would try to begin to return the favor to them.  Here's how it went, any info/thoughts would be helpful.

Prep - 2 racks of beef ribs. Sorry no naked photos.  Cut them in half to make it easier to fit on the rib rack.  Hindsight... I probably didn't need to do this.  The rub was a mixture of a few things I had in the cabinet...little salt/pepper/cumin/brown sugar.  I don't have really much experience with beef rubs.  Rubbed and refrigerated overnight.


I started a chimney full of charcoal and poured it over another chimney and a half of unlit briquettes and let them light for about 15 minutes.  Cold water in the pan (seems that even people who don't like to use water will use it for ribs) and then put the smoker together.  I had my top vent fully open and the bottoms fully closed. Temp held at 210 for about an hour and then started dropping.  opened two bottom vents about 1/4 way and then it started climbing nicely.  After 3 hours I foiled with some apple juice, a little brown sugar, and apple cider vinegar.  Another 2 hours later and I peeled back the foil.


I put them back on the grate for another 30 minutes and basted them with a BBQ sauce.  The temp climbed a bit too high near the end of the foil (nearly 325) and I didn't really want to leave them on much longer then that.

End result


Great flavor - mix of mesquite and cherry wood

Beef was a little bit fatty - could be the ribs themselves...I cant remember the last time I ate any, so nothing to compare to.  The meat was very tender.

Just a few questions:

1. I never seem to be able to get a good bark.  Is it the water pan? Flavor and color are there, but not that buildup of dark bark. More basting with BBQ sauce help? how would I get it on brisket...as I love burnt ends.

2.  I had only had some charcoal half burned when I was done from a 6 hour smoke.  Was I burning through it too quick because the vents were open after only an hour in?   My last brisket (around 12 lbs) took nearly 14 hours.  Would I have to add more unlit charcoal during the smoke or pre lit from the chimney?

Thanks for any help or comments and I look forward to sharing more!

JP
 
I can't speak on the second question as I don't have a WSM. As far as Bark goes, you can either go Hot and Fast, 300*F+ or if going Low and Slow best bark on short cooks like Ribs is skip the foiling stage and smoke straight through. On Briskets and Butts, they will be on long enough to develop bark before you foil and then can recover and firm up out of the foil...JJ
 
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The beef ribs look tasty for sure!!. Beef back ribs or beef Texas ribs as they are sometimes called are on the fatty side as a rule being that they come off the standing rib roast. they are very tasty also. i have done them lot's of times starting out foiling them maby an hour at about 275 on indirect heat. then take the foil off and start basting them with my sauce, which is a Korean stir fry and has honey and apple juice added by me. i keep turning them occationaly and basting [more like a mop] until they are done. this way bark is added along with carmalization. 6 hours seems like a long time but if your happy with the results, that is all that matters.

I can get beef back ribs here at a super Walmart for 1.98lb cryovaced in plastic in a whole slab. i can also get them split and in cryovaced packaging for 2.99lb. the best however is if you can get them freshly cut off the standing rib at a local store. this happens at times when after a standing rib ad runs it's course and the meat dept. over ordered and is stuck with more rib roasts than they want. so then they take the ribs off the roast and sell them in the counter at a reduced price at times and use the boneless ribeye that is left for steaks in the counter until they run out. so yes they are tasty but are on the fatty side. perhapst you did, but always remember to take the back membrane off these ribs just like it's done on the pork baby backs or spare ribs. Reinhard

 
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I really prefer to cook with a dry smoke chamber and haven't used a water pan for ages. In my gas smoker I have it filled with sand and foiled. The thermal mass helps with temp swings. The last beef ribs(beef short ribs) I did I used the 3-2-1 method and it produced a nice bark. My finishing sauce did have molasses and sugar in it so that contributed to the bark.



http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/136237/beef-short-ribs-on-the-mini-wsm-and-injected-hot-wings
 
Today I did my first rack of beef ribs I also got at Walmart. I used a rub I through together with spices from my pantry and applied it last night. This morning I applied a little more and let the rack come to room temperature. I put the racks in a disposable pan on the smoker grate uncovered. Then I let them smoke for 2 hours. After the 2 hours I poured red wine in the pan, basted with homemade bbq sauce and covered with foil. An hour later I basted again and removed from pan to sear sauce. I let them rest for 15 min in foil tent. My wife and mom tore them up. Out of 2 racks 4 ribs are left.
 
Sorry forgot to post plated picture of my beef ribs. I also smoked wings at moms request and tossed in homemade wing sauce. Pasta salad also moms request. I think she only visits to get fed. Lol

Unkie stable
 
Thanks for the help.

I am really considering ditching the water pan for a ceramic heat sink of some sort.

If I do find myself running higher than desired temperature what is the best way to bring it down? Assuming all three bottom vents are closed, would I begin closing the top vent? 
 
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 love beef ribs, especially cherry wood smoked ribs for me!!
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Thanks for the help.

I am really considering ditching the water pan for a ceramic heat sink of some sort.

If I do find myself running higher than desired temperature what is the best way to bring it down? Assuming all three bottom vents are closed, would I begin closing the top vent? 
Nice lookin' beef ribs!  Well done.  You already got lots of good advice on bark, and I can't help you with your WSM temp questions, I don't own one.  You might want to post over in the charcoal smoker forum to get more specific advice from some other WSM users on issues like temp control, dampers and vents.  Good luck, and Happy Smokin'!
 
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