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post #141 of 198
Get rid of that electrified smoker and get a stick burner!! Yes it's not set it and forget it but when you produce awesome BBQ with one you'll be so much more proud. No offense to the electric and propane guys intended.
post #142 of 198

With all due respect to all those gurus here who know more than me (which is nearly everyone), what I need to smoke with is something that will produce a consistent temperature and an acceptable quantity of smoke.  With the MES and the AMPTS (and hopefully also soon the MES side box) I have it.  Couldn't be happier.  If I weren't smoking, charcoal, wood chunks, etc... would add some very welcome flavor to my meals.  Since I am, no need...  Heat and smoke...  Consistent quantities of both...

 

 

MG

post #143 of 198
It all goes by what makes you happy brother!! Go with what you know!
post #144 of 198

Learning more every day, thanks to you and all others on this great forum...

 

 

MG

post #145 of 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by patvance View Post


Masterbuilt sells a side box. It should be included (my opinion) it makes all your smoke issues go away.

 

 

Can this be used with pellets, or just chips?

post #146 of 198

I too have have thought about the cold smoker. The down size is my cover will no longer work and I keep it outside in the summer

post #147 of 198

Its not in the manual, but I have mixed in 'some' pellets in with the chips without any issues.  First I put in some chips, then mix some pellets with the chips, about 90% chips 10% pellets (so far).

post #148 of 198

I have the masterbuilt electric cold smoker kit .It is almost a must to have if you have the MES gen 2 .AMNPS with gen 2 goes out a lot .The masterbuilt cold smoker gives you up to 6 hours of smoke and it will not go out . You can use split chunks,chips,pellets and broke up lump charcoal .You can get it started without being attached to MES ,then slide into the chip loader opening (no need to mess with the hook),pull the ash drawer out and shut off power .You can put a small piece of foil where the draw was to catch ash,use a small pumpkin type fan pointed at ash draw opening and use it to get a true cold smoke.Got one off my best cheese smokes doing that ,perfect smoke and internal temp never went up .For doing a cook it is great .Has the AMNPS beat by a long shot. Oh yeah someone mentioned that he could not use it because it won't work with his cover,I have stock cover and what I do is NOT use the attaching hook so all you do is slide it into chip loader and when done slide it out and put it away then cover MES. No brainer .MES is outside covered ,attachment is in the shed. The attaching internal hook is a pain in the a$$ that need not be used.

post #149 of 198
Covertly inserting my fingerprint in order to follow the updates. I am actively looking for the cold smoker attachments for my MES30. I had no idea how bad this thing was until I visited a friend with a dedicated wood burning smoker mounted on a trailer....
post #150 of 198
Just ordered a http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008DF6WWE/refnew Masterbuilt cold smoke generator for my mes30. Guess I'll be making some cold smoked salmon soon. I hope that link worked, I haven't done that before. If you're wondering what I'm talking about then it must not have worked.
post #151 of 198

You can talk to Todd at Amazen products about the gen 2. It may take the Tube smoker to work right but Amazen smokers are much nicer imho than the Masterbuilt "cold smoker" They are cheaper, smoke longer, can be used for true cold smoking, and don't have to be plugged in. That is why most of the people seem to prefer Todds stuff over the Masterbuilt kit.

post #152 of 198

STCDG35

 

Thanks for the pearls of wisdom.  You just saved me a lot of R&D time.

Thanks!

post #153 of 198

After a bit more experimentation with my AMNPS, I figured I'd report my findings. Remember, YMMV. It seems, at least for me, that the major issue with the AMNPS is getting it started well. I THOUGHT it was going good the first time I tried using it, but apparently not. Just to refresh, I've got the black, windowless 1st gen 30" MES, with the small tray in the chip loader, and the large tray in the chip burner. Following Masterbuilt's directions of keeping the vent closed while smoking meat, I get around 3 hours per 1/2 cup of chips. 

 

Okay, back to the AMNPS. On my 2nd attempt, after a 10 minute burn, I seemed to have a much better quantity of glowing pellets than I did the first time. Maybe it was breezier, which helped them catch, I'm not sure. However, this time when I put them in the MES, they didn't go out after a short while. I had the chip tray pulled out an inch or so, the chip loader pulled out 2 inches, and the vent open wide. The AMNPS burned well, but the amount of smoke inside the smoker was minimal. I pushed the loader back in, and closed the vent. After a while, I checked the amount of smoke inside the MES, and it was much better. The AMNPS kept burning well even with those closed. Another test today using the same configuration (vent closed and loader pushed all the way in) is also producing excellent results.

 

Looks like I'll hold off on the Masterbuilt cold smoker attachment. Dunno if I just got lucky, but I've been quite happy with the amount of smoke from both the original chips and now the AMNPS. Now to find a place to get more pellets locally...

post #154 of 198

Got a new toy today.

 

 

 

post #155 of 198

I believe I posted an answer to this question with my experience dealing with a Masterbuilt 40" smoker. If you have a generation 2 unit, the standard AMNPS with the rows will never stay lit due to the design of the gen 2 smoker. (you can verify this with Todd from Amazeproducts.com). However, the tube type worked very well. It produces LOTS  of smoke until the pellets are gone, I just placed it in the bottom of the smoker. I had 4 gen2 Masterbuilt's with nothing but problems. I finally got my hands on a Gen! all stainless steel unit and absolutely love it, with nary a problem. the standard AMNPS works perfectly on the Gen1 due to a much better design. I believe Todd offers a couple of sizes on the tube smoker. I should solve your smoke problem.

Bill
 

post #156 of 198

Nice!  I believe you will love the smoke flavor this unit produces.  

post #157 of 198
(pork tenderloins)

Thought I would chime in

Todd and his wife was great in my order of the AWNPS

 

My complaint is the time in messing around to get it lit and I have had problems with it going out either because of airflow or not being lit good enough.

Didn't know about the MB cold smoker, got one from Cabela's. Solves my smoke issues and lack of patience. Using chips and pellets also just setting in hole and taking out as I move unit outside and store it in garage. Will use Todds AWNPS as backup and for cold smoking.

 

Agree it should be included with smoke or at least advertised, cant believe these guys in poor Gen2 design and lack of their own product support.

Hats off to Todd and his customer support!


Edited by HawkeyeSmokin - 5/30/14 at 2:21pm
post #158 of 198
Hawkeye, evening....... do not use water in the smoker.... Dry the pellets in an oven for a couple hours at 275 or so first.... Have the exhaust wide open.... pull the chip chute out an 1 1/2 or so and pull the chip pan out a bit .... those allow for air flow.... Did any instructions come with the AMNPS ???

Dave
post #159 of 198
I have heared that you need to remove the chip loader to increase air flow but can't remember where. Anyone know if this is true.
post #160 of 198
You can remove the chip loader but you risk chip/pellet ignition and flame up. The result will leave your meat with a creosote taste. Try pulling it out just slightly. ..about 1/4 inch. That may work for you.
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