Smoking a Brisket Tomorrow (01/12/13) - Follow Along

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kevin13

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Had a 13.5lb brisket in the deep freeze for about 6 months and decided it was time to thaw it out in the fridge on Monday night. Pulled it out tonight from the cryo bag and it stunk like liquid death. Not sure what the hell went wrong, but wasn't going to take a chance. Shot over to Sam's and picked up another 13.5lb.


Took it out to examine what I got:



This is my 2nd brisket, but the first one I will have to trim. I've looked at alot of pictures and "how-to's" but don't think I was really prepared. Nevertheless, I dove in and while I think I made a few mistakes, I don't think it's going to affect the final product.

I cut most of the fat off the part that's in the lower left of this picture. After looking at the aftermath, I pulled up the Virtual Brisket, as shown on my iPad in the background, and realized I probably shouldn't have cut it off. I kept all of the fat so I can put it on the rack above to baste during the smoke.



Once the butchering, I mean trimming, was done :icon_smile: I rubbed down with olive oil and smothered with SPOG. Wrapped it up with saran wrap and threw in the fridge.


I'm going to start the smoker at around 10PM tomorrow night and do an overnight smoke so it will be ready for dinner Sunday evening. I plan on smoking at 230 or so with hickory and apple. I'll have a pan underneath the brisket to catch all of the drippings. At around 150 IT, I'll throw in the pan with the drippings, add some beef broth, foil and take up to around 180 or so. Then I'll pull out of the pan and place back on the rack until 195 IT. My thought is that will allow the bark to firm back up from the braising. Haven't done it this way before, but figured I'd give it a shot.

Thread will be updated once the smoke starts tomorrow. Stay tuned.
 
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So here we go. I got a little bit of a late start due to some rain, possibly turning to freezing rain and sleet / snow but I set up my 12x12 EZ-Up to guard against the weather and fired up the MES.

I decided I'd try Chef Jimmy J's Au Jus after getting some pointers from him...thanks again JJ. Here are all the veggies prepped and in the foil pan:


Brisket was pulled from the fridge and allowed to come to room temp and I dusted with some additional SPOG:


And here is the MES loaded with the brisket, veggies for au jus, and the fat I trimmed off above to help baste the brisket. The AMNPS is loaded with apple and hickory and the MES is set for 240 degrees and will probe after the 4 hour mark.


It's going to be a long night considering I've been up since 7AM and didn't get a chance for a nap....the things we do for tasty meat.
 
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You have a MES and AMNPS! The whole point of putting that combo together is so...You can get some sleep. Just add your Broth and a couple of extra cups of water, more broth is salt free, and get some sleep the extra liquid will carry you for a few hours. Even if it runs almost dry you can bring the Au Jus back with more water...JJ
 
I know I know. I was staying up more because its 24 degrees out with some wind and I wanted to make sure the temps didn't swing too much. Going to get a couple hours of sleep now and wake up to probe since it will be the 4 hour mark and then set the temp alarm for 150 to wake me up so I can foil.....although that will probably be quite awhile from now.
 
looks good.

I like the little cart for the MES...where did you find it? I am trying to get my dad set up with a MES and the cart would be a great sell for it.
 
Thanks, but its not going too good. I'm 4 hours in and just probed the meat and its reading 129 degrees. The probe has been calibrated. The pan for the au jus is about the size of the MES shelf and I think it's blocking the heat / acting as a heat sink. This is coupled with the fact that its about 24 degrees out and windy.

I'm worried that I haven't made it out of the danger zone. I'm going to pull the au jus tray out and see what happens. Any suggestions would be great. If I have to scrap the meat I will, beats getting the family sick.

Jarjar....it's a cart from Sam's, item number 135623. I cut one of the shelves in half and attached a 2x4 at the end to make a side shelf. I got the idea from PigInIt I believe. I can post pictures if you'd like once my home Internet comes back up as I'm currently using my phone.
 
If you did not inject it you are fine. Turn up the heat and try to shield it from the wind. Yes the pan may be an issue. I would either move to a smaller pan or maybe make an open foil packet to hold the vegetables......

How accurate is your therm for the cook chamber? If you are relying on the stock one that came with the MES, that could be an issue as well...

Thank you on the cart info.....
 
To be honest, I made a rookie mistake didn't put a temp probe on the grate at the beginning of the smoke. It slipped my mind because I didn't probe the meat like I normally do. Had I done that, I probably would have noticed the temp issue early on.

So after typing the earlier post, I removed the pan and veggies. Grate temp shot up to 230 after about 20 minutes and the IT started rising shortly thereafter. As of 30 minutes ago, the IT was 160 and when I removed the probe to check another area, the probe hole spewed liquid like crazy. I wrapped the brisket in foil with some beef broth and threw her back in.

We'll see what happens. I'm a bit disappointed but it may turn out ok....some things you don't find out until you try. I am somewhat amazed that it got up to 160 in 9 hours despite it reading 129 after 4 hours. My guess is it will stall here at 160 for awhile.

And Jar....I have never used the MES stock thermometer. My ET-73s do a much better job :)
 
Observations so far....I think I was doomed from the start. The funky smelling brisket mentioned in the first post should have been a warning to abort. :102:

It only took 2.5 hours to go from 160 to 185 IT once foiled. That seemed entirely too fast given past experience but a couple of probe spots said all good. So I unfoiled and threw it back on the rack to take up to around 196 IT and firm up the bark. Temp rise slowed, actually didn't move at all, and out of curiosity I decided to probe another spot.....temp dropped. So that indicates that I was probing fat pockets earlier and caused me to read higher temps. No biggie, let it ride. It has now dropped to 162 IT. I've bumped the MES to 250 and at the grate is reading 236 now.

I know weird things sometimes happen but this is nutty. I plan on just keeping as is....brisket on the grate and MES set for 250 and just let this puppy go. Every couple of hours I'll do the probe test to see if its tender. I'm just completely baffled and if it turns out awful, then at least it was a learning experience :hit:

If anyone wants to impart any wisdom to help me keep my sanity, I'll all ears.

Here's a pic of what it looked like when I thought I hit 185

 
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I think you will end up fine...JJ
 
I ended up foiling the brisket again and got it up to 195 IT, same reading on two different temp probes and in the same location that gave me the 160ish reading earlier. Anyway, from start to finish, despite the issues, it took alittle over 16 hours. The foiled brisket is now wrapped in towels and placed in a cooler to rest for a couple of hours. I'll give a taste update and slicing pictures at that time.

Since I had the smoker running, I threw on some cooked andouille and kielbasa made from a local butcher. I'll smoke these at 225 til they are about 150-160 IT, with hickory and apple. Here they are prior to entering the MES:

Kielbasa in back, andouille up front

 
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Pulled out the andouille and kielbasa when they hit 155 degrees IT. Great added smoke flavor and pretty good taste but not as good as others I've had from another butcher.


After 2 hours of rest in the cooler, I pulled out the brisket and began to slice. It may be because I'm abit green smoking briskets, but I really couldn't identify the point. When I started slicing the fat around what I'm pretty sure was the point, it completely pulled apart like pulled pork. I sliced the flat about 1/8" thick or so until I started getting into the parts that had reached a higher temp and it started to pull. So I got a decent amount of brisket slices and a fair amount of pulled brisket.

Overall, not too bad. The taste is good but it has a mushy bark since I foiled it to get up to temp faster given the circumstances I had, but definitely edible. Leaving it in the cooler for 2 hours was probably abit too long and caused it to have a higher temp and pull apart. Nevertheless, still a good flavor and it won't go to waste and I have another brisket under my belt that provided another learning experience and observations I can keep in my smoke log. Thanks for following along and thanks to JJ for providing encouragement.

 
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I'd eat that, no problem...JJ
 
Looks De-lish! 
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Hey that looks allright! How did you like the SPOG rub? Would you add or remove anything to it? Did one spice overpower all the others? LMK. Thanks.
 
Hey that looks allright! How did you like the SPOG rub? Would you add or remove anything to it? Did one spice overpower all the others? LMK. Thanks.

SPOG was pretty good but the wife found it a bit too salty and I partially agree with her. Next time I think I'll cut it back from 1/3 cup to a 1/4 cup to start and then add additional to taste. Since I had to foil to get the temp up in a reasonable time due to the issues I had, the bark was mushy, as expected. I'm curious as to how the SPOG would have tasted had it been a more firmer bark. May have still been "too" salty, but I'm curious.

Regardless, it had a great flavor and I'll definitely do another brisket using SPOG instead of rub.
 
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