Cooking up some chicken this weekend. **Updated w/ Qview.**

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biged92

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I was planning on cooking up some boneless skinless chicken breasts in the smoker on Monday, and was going to put them in a brine tomorrow.  The question I have is, is it reduntant to inject the chicken after it's been brined? 

I will most likely use the Slaughterhouse Poultry Brine, and was thinking of a apple juice and hot sauce mixture for the injection.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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I don't inject brines or marinades anymore. I used to several years ago, but I don't even use my marinade injector now, except for larger cuts for cure injection...results of marinade/brine injection are mixed, and the flavor enhancement is spotty, usually limited to the area of puncture only, then it runs out as the meat begins to cook...it doesn't migrate throughout the meat like a good long soaking will with a proper salt concentration. Also, if you inject cuts which were previously intact whole muscle, you essentially turned them into compromised muscle and need to pay attention to the danger zone times/temps (40-140*/4-hrs). With chicken breast smoked @ 225* or above this should not be an issue, but with larger cuts of meat it can be a safety issue.

I'd give your breasts the brine treatment and a light rub with a bit of kick added if that's what you're after. Cayenne with cinnamon @ a 8:1 to 10:1 ratio works well...cinnamon fools the taste buds by adding a spicy sweetness, and this helps cover the bitter after-taste some folks get from cayenne....shh, your not supposed to know that...LOL!!! You could also add hot sauce to the brine...wouldn't hurt anything. A wet rub mix or a baste with some hot sauce works well, also. I've had great success with hot spiced brines and brine/cures and/or hot dry rubs in the past.

Here's a couple projects I did for chicken from my signature line, if you want to browse through them to stir your imagination a little...the sky is the limit when it comes to chicken and pork brining:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/fo...g-in-town-the-wild-wing-method-recipes-q-view

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/fo...rine-cure-dry-rub-recipes-w-q-view-in-gourmet

Eric
 
Eric has you covered - good luck with the smoke and don't forget the qview
 
That's awesome, just what I was looking for.  Thanks so much for the help.  I'll post pics of the preperation and final product on Monday.  Thanks again.
 
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That's awesome, just what I was looking for.  Thanks so much for the help.  I'll post pics of the preperation and final product on Monday.  Thanks again.
You're welcome. I'll be waiting to see how it comes together for you...love to hear about a nice success story, 'cuz it always seems to mark the beginnings of great things to come.

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Eric
 
As stated earlier in this thread, I have an update on my chicken cook today with Qview.

Yesterday day afternoon I placed 5 boneless and skinless chicken breasts in a small bucket of Slaughterhouse Poultry Brine.  I then sealed it up and placed in the frig to soak overnight (about 22 hours in total).


This afternoon, I took the chicken out of the brine, washed them off, and trimmed them up.


Next I took the advise of Eric, and rather then inject the chicken I spiced up the rub.  The rub itself is one that I kind of made up using several different recipes I found.  Here's the recipe of the rub I made.
  • 3/4 cup kosher salt
  • 1/4 cup smoked hickory salt
  • 1/2 cup of white sugar
  • 1/2 cup of ground turbinado sugar
  • 1/4 cup of chili powder
  • 1/8 cup jalapeno powder
  • 1/8 cup chipotle powder
  • 1/2 cup smoked paprika
  • 1/2 cup granulated garlic
  • 1 tsp cayenne pepper
I then lightly sprinkled a layer of rub on both the back and the front of the chicken breast.  Since I had the smoker going, I decided to make a batch of smoke Mac n Cheese as well.
 



Next I place the chicken and mac n cheese in a 250 degree smoker.  Since I used the gasser for this smoke, I used a 50/50 mix of apple and hickory pellets in my AMNTS.
 


After about an hour of cooking I checked the IT on the chicken, and it was sitting around 125 degrees.  At this point I did a little experiment.  In order to keep the breast from drying out, I placed the chicken in a disposable aluminum tray that had about a 1/2 stick of cubed butter at the bottom.  Now this isn't an original idea, as I have seen many people do this, but it was a first for me.  I then placed foil over the tray and put it back into the smoker for another 30 to 40 minutes.
 

At about the 1 hour and 40 minute mark, I checked the IT of the chicken again, and this time they were all hitting at 160 to 163 at the thickest part of the breast.  It was time to pull them and the Mac n Cheese off.



The finished product, my version of Monday Night Football's Blue Plate Special.


The chicken turned out fantastic.  I was a little worried about applying a rub with salt to meat that had already been brined.  But by the time I realized what I did, the meat was already in the smoker cookin'.  In the end it didn't really matter though.  The chicken was moist and not salty at all.  The rub did add a nice kick.  Not to overpowering, but enough to let you know the heat was there.

Thanks again for the feedback and advise.  I will definitely make this chicken again in the future.
 
Ed, looks and sounds good! Mac & cheese looks tasty, too!

I can definitely understand your concern about using a salted rub when using a brine. I just ran the numbers on that recipe...25% salt, so it is a bit high, but it's not a heavy rub on the finished product, so that probably makes a difference. Depending on what I'm cooking and the pre-cook prep, I try to stay down around 8-12%, sometimes less, especially if I apply a heavy dose. I just looked at my Naked Chix Dry Rub recipe again and ran those numbers...it's ~12.1%...I've used that rub for non-brined skinless whole birds a few times. I generally use no-salt rubs for brined or cured meats or poultry, making up a batch just for that purpose, but then I always grind up and blend a fresh batch of rub for every smoke, unless I had some left from too large of a batch earlier which will mate-up with what I'm smoking (I have dozens of dry rubs rubs...one wet rub for pork ribs, but mostly dry). Butter in a covered pan does a nice job to keep the surface of skinless birds soft and moist, and adds a nice richness to the finished bird. The main thing with interior moisture in birds is finished temp, but you obviously already know that.

Man, all these years of smoking and I still have not smoked any mac & cheese! LOL!!! OK, now I gotta ask, can you taste smoke beneath the surface at all, or just on top? (just curious...I may have to try this next weekend)

Eric
 
Looks delicious!  Like Eric I have not yet smoked mac-n-cheese.

My wife is not big on change and likes the way our mac-n-cheese tastes without the smoke, so I'm gonna have to do two pans - one smokey and one not!

Nice job on the Q-view.

Bill
 
I got the Mac n Cheese idea from reading a couple of the threads in this forum. So far it's been more of an experiment. I am basically using a recipe that came from MasterBuilt's website (). The recipe is very easy, as the cheese sauce is mainly cheese soup. I will eventually make my own sauce, but wanted to get a basic process down. Don't get me wrong the recipe is tasty, but definitely could use an improvement for my taste.

As for the getting smoke into the mac n cheese, I smoke it for an hour without the final topping stirring twice. Once at the 30 minute mark, and once at the hour mark. At that point I add the final topping of shredded cheese and panko bread crumbs. The first time I assembled everything at once, and the smoke never penetrated the cheese topping. This time I made sure that the macaroni and cheese sauce were exposed to the smoke.
 
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