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hebby

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Oct 18, 2012
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Torrance, Ca
Hi all, I bought a 13.5 lb belly from whole foods and cut it into 3 slabs. I am using pops brine for 1 and dry curing the 2 smaller slabs as we speak. I wanted to see the difference in flavor, if at, between the two methods. I have a few questions though.
1: I vacuum sealed the two dry curing slabs, not super tight but got all the air out. It seems like that is ok, but I'm not sure as the brine that forms might not be able to move around as much. Anyone else dry cure this way?
2. I don't have a vertical smoker but I have a horizontal fire box type that I retrofitted with a burner and can cold smoke with. Also added deflector plates so I get even temps. I can't hang the baco in there as there's not enough room. Is it ok to smoke it on the racks?
3. I have hickory, cherry, and pecan to use as well as mesquite but that's out as its a strong flavor and don't want to overpower it. What combo has provided good results,I've never used cherry but want to give it a shot maybe with hickory. Anyone use this combo? Or a combo of any of the above? How'd it turn out?

I have read a ton of threads as well as Ruhlmans section in charcuterie about it but he assumes that nobody owns a smoker hahahaha so his write up is a little different. Thanks for all the write ups they has helped a lot. Any and all advice is welcome and if anyone has questions on brewing let me know. That is my other guilty pleasure but the 2 go hand in hand. Nothing like having a home brew with some home made Q. Can't beat it.
 
Hebby, I dry cure my bellies that way every time; matter of fact, there's a 7pounder curing in the fridge right now.  As the belly shrinks a bit, you'll see that liquid moving around just fine as you flip it daily, unless it was too tight from the start.  

Also, I've used cherry, apple and pecan for my bacons and they are all great, but apple is our favorite.  

As all have said here before me, you'll never go back to store bought after you've made your own.

Cheers!
 
It was about $5.75 a pound for fresh, never frozen, naturally raised. Kind of pricey but it was great quality and whole foods was the only place I could find one in my area. I went in an Omaha steaks store and it was a complete waste of time. Most of the stuff they had was already cooked, no pork butts, no bellies, no brisket, they said I might be able to get something online...I also got a bone in pork butt for $32 at whole foods but I can't remember how much it weighs though. I was hoping to do something with that this weekend but not going to be able too so I have to freeze it.
 
X2 on the "never go back" thing.  Is there an Asian market near you. I had the same problem and found that most carried bellies. Then I got lucky with several friends that have cards to restaurant cash and carry supply stores, still pricey but around $2.59. Crazy part, the same stores had "hickory smoked" sliced bacon for $2.29. Go figure!!
 
Hebby, as a follow up to my previous post, here is the result of my latest bacon effort.  Sorry about the picture quality; I used my old cell phone.

Rubbed and ready:


Smoked:




A few vac sealed packages:


Flavor is amazing and I"m sure I'll be making more soon as my kids and friends found out that I just made more.....that means I'll be out of it real soon.  It's all good; that's what it's all about!!!!
 
Hi all, I bought a 13.5 lb belly from whole foods and cut it into 3 slabs. I am using pops brine for 1 and dry curing the 2 smaller slabs as we speak. I wanted to see the difference in flavor, if at, between the two methods. I have a few questions though.
1: I vacuum sealed the two dry curing slabs, not super tight but got all the air out. It seems like that is ok, but I'm not sure as the brine that forms might not be able to move around as much. Anyone else dry cure this way?
 
Hello Hebby,

Well, I just noticed this post so you are probably well into the cure by now.  Lets see some picts of how things are going. 

I have been curing bacon now for a little over a year.  Have not bought bacon from a store since.  I don't vacuum seal I just buy the 2.5 gallon zip locks and rub and flip the bellies every day or so.  I also started with Ruhlman's recipe but have since changed the cure #1 amount.  I have to think Martin (Digging dog farm) for that one.  He has a website with a calculator that works great. 

here is the link : http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html

I always have to give Martin credit because he has help me w/ all sorts of curing techniques.

Ok,

I smoke the bacon on racks.  I use a RF smoke and just burn a really small fire.  It take more work but I don't mind.  One day I will build that smoke house.  My temps are usually around 100-120 degs.  Then after 10 hours or so I raise the heat and bring the IT to around 150 degs.  Let is rest and enjoy.

As for the wood I use for smoking bacon:

Apple is #1

Hickory and oak are next.

I am sure cherry will be fine but I don't use it that much. 

I have used Pecan and that turned out great.

Now, As for brewing I am a newbie.  I have 6 brews under my belt.  Still bottling but as soon as the $$$ is right I will be switching to the kegs.

Nothing like a home brew and some Q.

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/127093/first-all-grain-recipe

Nice to have you here Hebby and can't wait to see some Qview/Brewview.

Aaron.
 
Thanks for all the help! I am going to take it out of the cure today and do a test fry later. Here are some pics for the Q view. 2 dry cure 1 pops wet cure with a little maple syrup added.


My curing fridge. It also can "cure" and serve homebrew.


Some lobsters I caught a few weeks ago on the season opener with a brisket and a tri tip for next weekend


Nothing like bacon and double IPA on draft.
 
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