How do I lean my burner?

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silv50

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Sep 20, 2010
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I recently purchased a masterbuilt extra wide smoker. I have done about 6 or 7 smokes in and it has worked great, until today.  About half way through my smoke I was adding wood and and realized there was about 1/4' of soot caked to the outside of my wood chip plate and of course there was soot all over my ribs and inside my smoker.  The flame was nothing but a tall orange flame.  Also, I don't know if it is related, but twice I had to shut it down because a flame had started right where the adjustment knob meets the baffle (at least I think that's what it's called).

Anywho, just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and how to fix it?  It doesn't seem like the masterbuilt has much space for air to mix with the flame so maybe it is inherent to the smoker.  It hasn't done it before and this is my second smoker I've owned and the first time I've ran into problems.  Any help would be appreciate.  Thanks in advance

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silv, evening... I see you have several threads about your smoker over the last 18 months...  Have any of the previous suggestions helped ??

Did you open the tank properly so there is full propane flow ?? (turn off the smoker and close the tank valve... open the tank valve VERY slowly)  Are there spider webs in the burner ???  Is the propane tank at least 1/2 full  ??
 
Dave,

This is the first post about this particular smoker.  The other posts were concerning my previous smoker.  This is the first time I have experienced problems with my Masterbuilt

The tank was full and the valve was wide open.  I haven't been able to get back out to it but I will turn it on again to see if opening the valve slowly will help.  I don't think it would make a difference, but I did install a needle valve to help control the flow. I've had it installed from the first smoke and haven't had any problems until now. 

I have not yet taken it apart to clean it and make sure there are no bugs/spiders causing problems.  That will be the next thing I do.  Also wondering if there is any way to adjust these burners to make them leaner/richer?  It seems like this burner has ran a little rich since I got it.  I have never gotten the nice, blue flame that is desired with a propane burner but this is the first time that I have major problems.  Seriously, everything was covered in thick black soot.

  Thanks
 
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Silv.... Some burners have an air adjusting collar where the hose attaches... others have a screw .... Depends on the manufacturer....  Check the burner for slag left over from casting, if it is cast iron, that is obstructing the air flow also while you are looking....    Dave
 
Good suggestions by Dave. The XL burner is a sheet metal cheapie, there is no air adjustment, just an open venturi. Check for obstructions in the burner/venturi. Next suspect is the tank/valve/regulator. Hook the same tank up to another appliance if possible. All these new regulators and valves are pretty cheap, and many people report problems such as you are having.
 
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Thanks all for the suggestions.  I'll let you know if I figure anything out.
 
I checked the tank on another smoker and it worked fine. Which reduced it to either the regulator or the burner.  So I pulled the burner out of the smoker and sprayed water right into the baffle.  After I sprayed I noticed there was some sort of debris on the inside. I think a dang spider had tried to make home for the winter inside my burner.  I sprayed it out for a few minutes until nothing else was coming out.  Here are before and after pics of the flame. 



I think that fixed it!!!

On another note, when I took the burner out, I noticed I have some sort of fodder clanking around inside the burner.  I doesn't seem to be causing a problem right now, but may in the future.  Anyone had any experience with Masterbuilt and their warranty?  Any suggestions on how to get the fodder out?  The only way I could see it coming out is either through on of the burner holes or back out the baffle.  I shook the crap out of it but couldn't get it to come out.
 
I had a early 1980's model Holland grill and had a similar problem.  If you are not familiar with the Holland grill design, it's basically a single big burner that sits under a thick (3/8" or so) steel plate.  The burner heats the plate to one temp, red hot, and then the heat convects upwards and around a tub which is under the food grate.  In essence it's a big one temp indirect heat convection cooker.

Ok back to my point.  I found that every year or so, I needed to unscrew the top cover of the burner and vacuum out those metal flakes which I take it are what you are calling the "fodder clunking around inside" (and the occasional spider also I would guess).   My burner was cast iron and although the outside was painted with high temp paint, the inside seemed to want to rust and occasionally flake.  I guess it was from the heat and the h2o liberated from the combustion of the LP gas.  Like your photos, my flame would start to go yellow and I knew it was time to suck out the "fodder" again.  I think what happened was the "fodder" would restrict the LP flow through the pipe of the burner where it mixed with the O2 headed to the burner head and threw the mix ratio off.

So I would bet your burner is of a similar material since it sounds like it is flaking also.

Got a good 20 years out of that grill (including two rebuilds).  I ended up giving it to a neighbor who was on a fixed income when their old Walmart el-cheapo gasser bit the dust.  Replaced it with a big Weber S-670 though (like 10 burners).
 
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Yeah, there is likely to be some leftover sheetmetal clanking around. It is a pretty cheap burner. Definitely not cast iron or brass! I'm glad you got it worked out. Just stay tuned so you can help out the next person to come along with the same issue.  Critters will get you every time!
 
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