Wanted 2 Butts Ended up with 2 Shoulders.

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bakerman

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Nov 19, 2011
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Hey all,

Bakerman here with his first attempt at shoulder smoke for PP. I like many love LOVE LOVE Eastern Carolina PP. Been to several pig pickin's down at the Outer Banks and at my sisters home in Spot N.C. If you have not tried Eastern Carolina style you are missing out IMO. I live in Maryland so BBQing is not quite the religion it is further south. I am going to attempt to replicate as close as possible the taste and experience in my Master Built Propane smoker the Carolina stye PP.

I am at work as of right now, but have been prepping for most of the week to accomplish this meal. Yesterday I went to BJ's Wholesale and was hoping to purchase 2 Boston butts. Unfortunately they only had "picnic" shoulders with the skin on. For less than $20 I secured two of them rascals and took them home. Last night I prepped them with the uncertain feeling that I might have made a dumb mistake. I removed the thick skin and most of the fat under it. Of course I had a dull knife so it took a while but I learned a lesson, so that was fine. After removing the skin I placed the nude meat in a disposable foil pan and applied liberal amounts of plain cheap mustard. I was going to use Jeff's rub but I found some McCormick Rub at BJ's and went with that. I sprinkled/ doused the 2 shoulders with mustard and rub then covered the pans in cellophane and placed them in the fridge.

I was relieved to read this thread this morning: http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/49602/need-help-with-a-pork-picnic-shoulder

To find out I actually made the right move by removing the skin made my day. I will proceed tonight with the all night smoke (my first ).

Shooting for a 9pm start and 3 am check to make sure all is right with my smoker. I will post Q views once I begin, I did take a couple of snaps of the before ( after the skin removal ) , so I will post those pictures as well.

I assured my wife last night that I am not crazy, that I actually enjoy doing this. In some weird way it soothes me to know I am making some good food for my family. She responded with "as long as your cooking I'm okay with that". Ha!

On a side note. While I was down visiting my sister last week I made some BBQ ribs using their oven ( they don't have a smoker). I brought some of Jeff's rub down with me and they turned out pretty good. I was disappointed they fell apart taking them off the grill. But my sister and her husband remarked they where "the best ribs we ever had." That made me feel pretty good.

Hopefully my results with the shoulders will be better.

So wish me luck and I will return with my porcine pix in a few days.

Bakerman
 
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Bakerman, morning.....  I did a couple picnic shoulders a month ago.... they were good....    Good job on the brisket... LOL....  Dave
 
my sister and her husband remarked they where "the best ribs we ever had."

Hopefully my results with the shoulders will be better.
good luck to ya -- if you're shooting for better than "the best we ever had", you're going to need it!!

(Picnics/shoulders are just butts with more of the shoulder meat & bone still attached, they make great PP... but I suspect you already know that!)

Sounds to me like you're going to be feasting tomorrow night  :)
 
Remember to be "PATIENT", that Butt will chap your Butt , waiting on it, but when she's all "Sweaty" start watching the heat cause she's about to jump to done , what's the sweat...

  see the shine, it the Bark rendering and the juices are moving around breaking down the Collagen, when I see this , it's usually 30mins. till it releases the bone. Ribs will sweat too, when you see that,do the bend and they'll usually be done...

 see the wet and the break , these will be bite off tender, want fall off ? Let them rest wrapped for at least an hour, up to 4hrs.-IMHO.

Have fun and...
 
Okay 14 hrs and 10 minutes in and temp just hit 190 degrees. These babys are looking good. I will post pictures after all is said and done,cause I am one busy smoker. Making homade finishing sauce, coleslaw BBQ sauce and to put the kiss to it all a " Pig Pickin'' cake. This has been a lot of fun. My wife thinks I've gone over the deep end. Pictures to come later. Thanks for all the support and info you people are fantastic.

Bman
 
Here are the pictures I promised. Be patient there are quite a few.

Musted and Dusted

Dusted and waiting

  Store bought rub. Pretty good flavor.

Just on the grate 9:00 pm


Pulled at 165 degrees for foiling 10:00 am


Homemade BBQ Sauce. Really spicy and good.

Pig Pickin' cake waiting for paint

Homade slaw especially crunchy

Just out of the cooler

  First shoulder pulled


  Clean bone

  2nd Shoulder waiting for pulling. Pretty nice bark.

Off the bone.

READY FOR DINNER


 Pig Picking cake frosted. It goes well with the BBQ, especially the Carolina style.

2 days later and there is still some left. I will be eating this for a couple more days. Very happy with the results.

Thanks to all for the support and feel free to comment.

Bakerman
 
Dave, I was very pleased with the results. Some of the best PP BBQ I've ever had. I can do better I think.

My wife exclaimed she didn't care much for the "vinegar" taste but she has eaten probably 6 sandwiches so far LOL!

The only changes I would make are try for a better crunch to the bark and leave one tray without the vinegar just to see the preference. The cole slaw was perfect though. Crisp and had a little bite to it. The sauce was the best I've ever had. Store bought or otherwise.

Gonna freeze some just for later on. Like when the wife visits her sister. Haha.
 
Looks great!  As far as shoulders, I don't think you get the same meat per pre-cooked pound that you do with a butt, but as far as quality, it's the same as far as I'm concerned.  It also seems they put the shoulders on sale here more than the butts. 
 
Looks outstanding! 
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We're not huge fans of the vinegar, so I just put some of the juices back in after I pull it. I no longer foil mine, so I have awesome bark. Even to rest, I only really foil about half way up and pop it in the crockpot (no heat).
 
Great job, Bakerman!

Being a Tar Heel by birth and having lived in Raleigh for my first 50 years, I too am a big fan of Eastern NC barbecue. I'm still working on doing pulled pork one butt or shoulder at a time, but I always start with vinegar and red pepper flakes for the sauce.

You look like you've mastered it your first time out.

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The Pork looks real nice. I'm curious about the Cake...Would you give more details and a Recipe. Thanks...JJ
 
Great job, Bakerman!
Being a Tar Heel by birth and having lived in Raleigh for my first 50 years, I too am a big fan of Eastern NC barbecue. I'm still working on doing pulled pork one butt or shoulder at a time, but I always start with vinegar and red pepper flakes for the sauce.
You look like you've mastered it your first time out.
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Coming from a Tar Heel that is mighty complimentary.Thanks!

My finishing sauce was pretty basic. 1 cup each White and Cider vinegar, red pepper flakes , coarse black pepper. Some Torinado sugar (brown) shake well and add to the pulled meat. You can add more heat if that is to your liking. I did 2 shoulders to be sure I had enough for left overs. Man did I ever!
 
Coming from a Tar Heel that is mighty complimentary.Thanks!

My finishing sauce was pretty basic. 1 cup each White and Cider vinegar, red pepper flakes , coarse black pepper. Some Torinado sugar (brown) shake well and add to the pulled meat. You can add more heat if that is to your liking. I did 2 shoulders to be sure I had enough for left overs. Man did I ever!

When you mentioned Spot, NC I could smell the salt in the air and feel the wind coming off the sound and the ocean. Haven't been in Currituck County in over 40 years now. I might have to put a return trip on my bucket list.

Keep up the good work on that Q.
 
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