Chamber Wall Thickness

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bobfelts

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Apr 7, 2012
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indianapolis IN
I'm looking at having a reverse flow smoker built. The firebox is 1/4" plate steel, but the cook chamber is 12 Ga. steel. About a 24" Dia. x 50" chamber. I was under the impression that the heavier the wall, the better heat regulation. Is it important to go 1/4" thick for the cook chamber, flow plate, as well as the fire box? Or will I get good performance on a 12 Ga. cook chamber, all other things being the same?
 
I would think the 12 Ga. would be good, however you could hold heat better with 1/4",you will be looking at an increased fuel usage with the thinner plate , and being in Indy. you may need some more weather protection. There are those that have put an insulation between layers and have great results.

The builder Guru's will be by soon and can help you more, meanwhile welcom aned have fun here, and ...
 
Definitely going to follow this post.  I live in the Indy area as well and considering taking on a project soon.  We have an old heating oil tank that needs a new home.  Thinking an RF would be a good choice. Welcome aboard Bob.
 
   Bob, morning....  Thicker material is better....  Thermal mass is what makes for even temperatures..... Look at the smokers at W-M for instance.. Thin metal....  the high end smokers are 1/4" or thicker....   The cost for thicker metal is minimal compared to the labor and consumables...  It doesn't cost any more to weld 12 ga than 1/4" or it is minimal.....   Build the best you can afford, it is a very long term investment....   Dave
 
 
 Bob, morning....  Thicker material is better....  Thermal mass is what makes for even temperatures..... Look at the smokers at W-M for instance.. Thin metal....  the high end smokers are 1/4" or thicker....   The cost for thicker metal is minimal compared to the labor and consumables...  It doesn't cost any more to weld 12 ga than 1/4" or it is minimal.....   Build the best you can afford, it is a very long term investment....   Dave

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I'm looking at having a reverse flow smoker built. The firebox is 1/4" plate steel, but the cook chamber is 12 Ga. steel. About a 24" Dia. x 50" chamber. I was under the impression that the heavier the wall, the better heat regulation. Is it important to go 1/4" thick for the cook chamber, flow plate, as well as the fire box? Or will I get good performance on a 12 Ga. cook chamber, all other things being the same?
I am sure you have already looked over a number of other RF builds here on this site and you will notice that there are very few that are the same.  Similiar, but not the same.  The same thing goes for thickness and or gauge of steel on the pit builds.  No doubt, the thicker the steel, the higher amount of heat retention you will have, but it is not necessary.  Most of us have built pits with what we have, what is readily available and affordable.  I would prefer it to be thicker, but I think you will be fine with a 12 gauge cook chamber, as you begin to cook with it, you'll learn the ins and outs of your pit and be able to handle it as well as those built with 1/4 or 3/8 steel.  12 gauge would be just shy of 1/8" thick, a bit more heavy duty than the typical store bought smoker, but obviously not as thick as a propane tank.  My main chamber is 3/16" thick, and while smoking at 250, I can put my hand on the chamber without much of a burning feeling.  1/4" on the firebox is  a good choice, the thicker the better there, because of the high levels of heat involved with the fire, thicker will last you longer.  As far as the flow plate, thicker is better as well.  This will help eliminate the hot spot at the firebox end of the chamber for sure.  I used 1/4 for the RF plate and at grate level, the firebox end is still 15 degrees hotter than the opposite end, even with the 1/4 plate.  So, the thinner the RF plate, the hotter the firebox end will be, of course you could double up the steel on that end, kind of like a baffle plate below the RF plate.  To me firebox and RF plate are quite a bit more important as far as thickness are concerned than the chamber. 
 
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I will follow this as well.. I have built a couple pits now. I live in Wisconsin, 1/4 wall pipe is very expensive (if you can even find some) around here so I build mine with .11g steel and roll it, the fire box is 1/4" I can not compare apples to apples to a 1/4" wall since i do not have one... but i can say, my offset(http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/120328/some-steel-a-welder-and-my-wife-finished-pics) held temps great in a 40mph cold wind earlier this spring...Night and Day difference compared to my pos chargriller. recovery time is fine, wind or rain do not bother this and my fuel usage is just fine. .   I just cant imagine the gain from .11g to 1/4" would be as noticable as going from the 'pos' to .11g was  but i could be wrong..

anywho.. I can say for certain the 1/8" cook chamber will be fine!
 
I will follow this as well.. I have built a couple pits now. I live in Wisconsin, 1/4 wall pipe is very expensive (if you can even find some) around here so I build mine with .11g steel and roll it, the fire box is 1/4" I can not compare apples to apples to a 1/4" wall since i do not have one... but i can say, my offset(http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/120328/some-steel-a-welder-and-my-wife-finished-pics) held temps great in a 40mph cold wind earlier this spring...Night and Day difference compared to my pos chargriller. recovery time is fine, wind or rain do not bother this and my fuel usage is just fine. .   I just cant imagine the gain from .11g to 1/4" would be as noticable as going from the 'pos' to .11g was  but i could be wrong..

anywho.. I can say for certain the 1/8" cook chamber will be fine!
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On top of that, with the RF plate heated up, the pit will recover temp quicker than a DF.  Your losing the hot air inside the pit when open, but your plate is still being heated without anyn loss in temp, and possible an increase in temp due to the excessive exhaust created by the open door.  My temp (taken at center of lower grate) will drop 10-15 degrees while pulling ribs off to foil, but will be back up to 250 in no time once the door is back closed. 
 
Thanks for the replies!  Looks like I want 1/4" wall, but sounds like I can function with the 12 Ga. Now, it is a matter of seeing how much an adder it will be to the price of the smoker. The builder I'm working with seems a real straight shooter, and has been awesome to work with. Not sure if the 1/4" will stress his tooling, or if it will cost a lot more to work...  What I came away with here, is that my flow plate, firebox definitely need to be 1/4". Cook chamber, as thick as affordable.    Again, thanks for the insights and advice!  I'll keep y'all posted when I get my smoker, and see how it does.
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