ECB Unusual Problem ...

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Jul 8, 2012
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Birmingham, Alabama
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Ok my first post here ...I have been smoking for just long enough to know what temp, and how long I like to smoke certain meats, however, the WSM that I have been using is my father-in-law's and I had to return it last week. My wife didnt want me to drop the $$$ on my own so I decided to use an ECB that a buddy gave me and heavily modified her. I bought a cheap grill at walmart (Smokey Jo knockoff) and use the charcoal grate out of it raising the coals out of the bottom of the pan, drilled (8) 3/8" holes in the bottom (which can be closed with a vent that I also added) and 6 around the outer edges. I have also reversed the legs, added a vent to the lid, and sealed around the rim. I picked up a wireless grill thermometer and stuck it through a couple of corks so it would rest on the grill rack for an accuate "at the rack" reading. I know the ECB are not the "Cadillac of smokers" and have a rep for not keeping temps high enough, but my problem is IT IS TOO HOT ! Using the minion method, I started the coals, threw the water pan in, placed the thermometer and walked away. I set the monitor to alarm when it reached 230 (right about where I liked the WSM to hang out) and in no time the alarm sounded, and the temp kept rising .... all the way to 285 and stayed there until it started to cool off about 2.5 hours later
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! When it started to cool it was a slow gradual decline in temp (down to 210) until I went and changed the pan out and put fewer bricks in (thinking I just put too many the first time) only to get the same temps with a shorter hold time ... I am still fairly new, and I am sure there is a simple solution but I am stumped... I know the first step in getting help is "admitting that you have a problem" ... in my case it may be that I am broke and cant buy a decent unit ... but I would love to get this thing rolling. I have talked to many people who have smoked some GREAT stuff on 10 year old ECB's, and dont see a reason why I cant .... RIGHT
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An adjustable vent in the fuel pan? Just lay a sheet of foil down covering all holes. Punch a hole out at a time until you find the sweet spot.

I personally have found that outer edge holes are all it takes, but, like said, try the foil method for finding out exactly how much air the fuel needs to keep at a calm temp.

Not an issue keeping my ECB at whatever temp I want, but I find really filling it up, takes either A: some foil to cover air flow, or B: more wood (well as long as the wood is soaked long enough not to flame up right away, thus causing a spike in temp).

Just my experiences. Btw, without really devouring your post (sorry typed over 10k words and read probably 10x's as much at work today, my mind is a little mushy. Do you have a box smoker, or a bullet. )

Anyways welcome to the site. Like I said though, this is just IMO. Many people on here are pretty serious smokers and I'm sure you will get a whole lot of stuff to devour comment wise.
 
Ah, too much air, sounds about like something that I would do (OVER modify). I did remove an old vent off of the top of another old grill that I had and placed it on the bottom so that I could close it off if needed but I will try plugging a few up along the edges tomorrow using the foil method (great idea). For temp test purposes, could I heat the grill empty and "test" the temp without food inside? Also, what would you think about doing something like shown here (channel in the bottom) http://randyq.addr.com/ecb/ecbmods2.html  would this make any difference (I was thinking it may reduce the amount of fuel needed/lower/control the temp better?)

Unfortunately, the ECB is all that I am left with to smoke in right now ... that is why it is crucial to ge the temp under control (I am having rib withdrawals)...
 
Great reply! And yea, you can burn without meat. I do probably once or twice a month to test temps, new woods etc out. Plus, if you use some wood to smoke, it builds up a nice layer inside the smoker that helps flavor, plus keep rust away. I actually have so much crap inside my smoker I have to take a modified vinyl tile puller blade in the next few weeks to clean the top of the smoker (IE way too much goop added up, but then again I smoke 1-2 times every week.

Never think that having an ecb can't bring truly great results. Only thing an ECB has trouble with doing is smoking in 32f and below temps, in which a few mods I have (and will document this winter) come into play.

Looking at that article... imo you can do the same thing with some weber round pans. I'm guessing you have a bullet by the article. Best thing to do is seal that thing up to help control airflow. Someone on here has a truly excellent article on just such.

Personally, I just like using foil because you can replace after each burn, or even after each refill.
 
 
I finally got the coal/oxygen mixture just right ... I held a temp of between 227 (coldest) and 245( hottest) for about 11 hours with minimal hassle ... Smoked some brisket and a chicken and they were PHENOMINAL. I was skeptical of this little smoker to start with but ended up with excellent results... Very impressed and thanks for the advice guys! (by the way ... Kudos for smoking at temps below 32 degrees ... I love smoking ... But that's hardcore ... Don't think I could do it)
 
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