A little rib experiment.

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mdboatbum

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I've traditionally eschewed the 3-2-1 method for spares by reason of the fact that I like a firmer bite on my ribs. I've tried no foil with mixed results, and finally settled in on a 3-1-15minute method. 3 hours smoke, 1 hour foil and 15-30 minutes with the vents open and the smoker giving me all she's got. This has been my go to method, and it seems to work just fine for me.

This week I had planned to do a rack of St. Louis spares I got on sale at the grocery. They looked pretty meaty but also pretty fatty.

I'd planned to smoke them over at a friend's house while we worked on our boat, but weather and schedules got in the way. So, Sunday, I decided that since I'd never actually tried the 3-2-1 method, I'd follow it to the letter, in the oven at 225˚, just to have a "control group" so to speak. My oven is brand new and after a half hour of preheating, holds rock solid temps with only 5˚-8˚ of swing in either direction as the element cycles on and off.

The results were mixed. The meat was not as mushy as I'd thought it would be, nor was it stringy nor pot roast like. It was certainly tender, but the fat really didn't render at all. Overall, I wasn't entirely impressed, though I do see the virtue of a consistent method. The lack of smoke flavor certainly didn't help. They were also quite a bit fattier than most of the ribs I've gotten lately.

I think I'll stick with my method but maybe bump the temps up to 275˚ to shorten the process and maybe render some more fat.

Sorry for the weird photos. Bad lighting in the kitchen and tried to make up for it with a little too much photoshop :)

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As for fall off the bone? I guess they were. I actually pulled all the bones out before we ate. they came out VERY easily.

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Everyone has their own personal preference on how they like their ribs. Some like them more firm and some want them fall off the bone. I personally like them kind of right in between. I want them to come off easy but I don't like it when they fall apart when you try to pick them up. I have had really good luck with sticking to the 3-2-1 or 2-2-1 but depending on the size and thickness of the ribs I do make some minor  adjustments but nothing very drastic.
 
It's always good to experiment and learn. However, the 3-2-1 method was developed (as far as I know) to be used on a smoker at 225°F. Using an oven will give you a much different result making it impossible to judge the method. I've always used the 3-2-1 for spares and always liked the results, but, I also like "fall off the bone" ribs.

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.... so technically you still haven't tried the 3-2-1 method. It's all good though.
 
It's always good to experiment and learn. However, the 3-2-1 method was developed (as far as I know) to be used on a smoker at 225°F. Using an oven will give you a much different result making it impossible to judge the method. I've always used the 3-2-1 for spares and always liked the results, but, I also like "fall off the bone" ribs.

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.... so technically you still haven't tried the 3-2-1 method. It's all good though.
I don't follow. I wanted to find out what the texture of the meat would be using the 3-2-1 method. I can't see how a 225˚ environment in an oven is any different than on my smoker. I don't use a water pan in my mini WSM, so the humidity is not an issue. Seasonings and sauces don't necessarily affect the final texture unless it's a cure or a brine, which I don't use on ribs, and I used the same rub I always do. The only difference is the smoke, or lack thereof. I know a super long, cold smoke will definitely have an affect on the texture of meat, but I really don't think 4 hours should make that much difference. Obviously the flavor differences are HUGE, but this little experiment was all about texture.
 
One thing to remember is in a smoker the meat is on a rack that allows the heat to hit all sides of the meat fairly evenly. But in an oven you usually use a sheet tray or 2" deep pan, this does not allow the heat to get to the meat evenly. I do find that there is a differance in texture between the oven and the smoker.
 
One thing to remember is in a smoker the meat is on a rack that allows the heat to hit all sides of the meat fairly evenly. But in an oven you usually use a sheet tray or 2" deep pan, this does not allow the heat to get to the meat evenly. I do find that there is a differance in texture between the oven and the smoker.
I guess you have a point. Another 10 or 15 years of testing and eating the results and I should have it pretty well dialed in. That's the nice thing about smoking and this forum, there's always another thing to try, just to make sure you're not missing something. :)
 
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You're on the right track Mdboatbum. The only way to learn and get better at smoking is by doing, trying different things to see what works best for one's self. I have a long ways to go and much to learn but, I'm having a great time doing it.  Didn't mean to sound like a know it all if I came across that way. There are so many variables for each smoke that no two are exactly the same imo, but chances are good that they all taste pretty darn good. Good smokin' to ya!

 
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Not at all. I was honestly trying to figure it out. Thanks for your input, and I may try it on my smoker next time just to be sure. I would like to have a baseline, as thus far I've pretty much been struggling with unpredictable temps and adjusting on the fly. I've begun recording recipes and methods in hopes of repeating successes and avoiding repetitive failures. Now that I have a smoker that's pretty good at holding a stable temp, I'd like to dial in a method that works for me. I enjoy the experimentation, but would also really like a predictable, proven method that gives consistent results for those times when I really just want a good rack of ribs for dinner. I've got my rub and smoker dialed in, now I just need to get the times and temps dialed in. I'm really leaning toward a hot and fast approach, but I want to dial it back and "master" the tried and true method first.
 
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