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Hello all, I would first like to thank you for the forum and the extensive literature; you all have cleared the water to a great degree. 

 

Now for a decision... I am hoping to find a smoker for both of these units:

 

Outdoor Products 41170B got it at Costco but now Smoke Hollow I guess - converted to NG - love it..!  Best vertical water smoker I have ever owned hands down... I know there are a lot better out there but this one has taken the cake by design for me...

 

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Holland Grill Legacy BH421-SS-3 NG (GoodWill $65 score!) Never even heard of a Holland Grill - was concerned at first but after the heat hear is San Antonio this summer, cooked on it all summer to keep the house cool - amazing slow food...

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But I need a cold smoker and would like to go with something that will let me leave it unattended (i.e. sleep, leave and check on it from time to time w/o worrying about it).

 

It seems, from what I have read:

 

41170B --> A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER

 

BH421-SS-3 --> A-MAZE-N-SMOKER 6X6

 

But - do I need both if I were to only need one at a time?

 

Would the Pellet Smoker be to much for the Holland and is there a way to simply pour less depth of fuel?

 

What is the difference between using sawdust and pellets?  Would it be better to simply go straight to pellets instead of juggling two fuel types? 

 

What is the minimum cubic area for the A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER lit on one end only?

 

Thank you all - I will really appreciate your input as I am treading new waters here:)

post #2 of 12

Welcome to SMF!  Drop in to ROLL CALL and introduce yourself!  Todd should be along to answer your specific questions on his units, I'm sure (he just got back from a trip and might still have some jet lag!)!

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks - will do.

 

Oh - I had meant to mention, I also have a Shelleymatic 19x23x31 Mobile tray I have been wanting to add a chopping block type lid and use it as a drop in for cold smoking as well.

 

Here is a pic one of those - found it at the dump on clean up day;)

 

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It is simply an SS box with a ~2" dia hole in the bottom.  I was thinking the pellet unit would work well in this one too for hanging fish and such from dowels and/or lid... thoughts?

post #4 of 12

I'm sure he will recommend getting the pellet smoker, because it will burn pellets or dust. 

 

As for your technical questions, as Pops said Todd should be along shortly to answer them.

 

And also welcome to SMF!

post #5 of 12

Hey SoTx,

Welcome to SMF!

Go with the A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER

It produces enough smoke for a small electric smoker like the Masterbuilt, and also produces enough smoke for a small outdoor smoker like Pops and others have.

I've also sold a few to guys with large trailer smokers for cold smoking.Once your smoker fills up, the smoke spills out

 

Todd

 

Link to Pops Chicken Smoke & Cheese Smoke:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/111978/naked-dixee-chicks-at-corn-cob-city

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/112192/cold-smoking-cheese-in-the-smokehouse

 

 

 

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post #6 of 12
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A-MAZE-N-SMOKER 6X8
Produces smoke for up to 10 hours on 6 oz (3 cups) of A-MAZE-N-DUST
 
AMNPS5X8
"NEW" A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER  
Produces smoke for up to 11 hours on 15 oz of A-MAZE-N-PELLETS.
 
OK - so, I see the AMNS 6x8 uses 6 oz dust while the AMNPS uses 15 oz of pellets... 
 
Does the AMNPS burn hotter?  Say I am shooting for 70 deg, do I just simply put less depth of dust or pellets in or is the temp not a problem by simply cracking the door/lid or something..?  
 
Also, would I be using 1/2 as much wood product using the dust or is the pellet direction so much cleaner that it is worth it?
 
Thanks again!
post #7 of 12

With the AMNPS you can use both dust and pellets. The dust burns at a lower temp. When I used the pellets for some cheese I was in the low 90's inside my SmokinTex - with the dust I stay in the 70's

Good luck

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

so there we have it - i have my point of origin - ty all:)!

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

OK - last question - what is the burn time when using dust?

post #10 of 12

My answers in RED

 

Todd
 

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A-MAZE-N-SMOKER 6X8
Produces smoke for up to 10 hours on 6 oz (3 cups) of A-MAZE-N-DUST
 
AMNPS5X8
"NEW" A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER  
Produces smoke for up to 11 hours on 15 oz of A-MAZE-N-PELLETS.
 
OK - so, I see the AMNS 6x8 uses 6 oz dust while the AMNPS uses 15 oz of pellets... 
 
Does the AMNPS burn hotter?  Say I am shooting for 70 deg, do I just simply put less depth of dust or pellets in or is the temp not a problem by simply cracking the door/lid or something..?  
Yes, the AMNPS burns a little hotter, because the pellets are denser than sawdust.  The heat really depends on which smoker you are using it on.  An insulated MES or Bradley will hold more heat than an uninsulated smoker like the Traeger.  Also, the black paint on a smoker will absorb the heat from the sun, and cause the heat to rise.
 
Also, would I be using 1/2 as much wood product using the dust or is the pellet direction so much cleaner that it is worth it?
Pellets produce more smoke because they are about 2 times the weight of the same volume of sawdust packed into the AMNS.
3 cups of packed Hickory Sawdust weighs about 9 oz. and 3 cups of Hickory Pellets weighs about 16 oz.
 
In some cases, pellets may produce too much smoke and sawdust does a better jobIt really depends on the size of your smoker.  For example, I would use sawdust in a Little Chief or even a Big Chief Smoker, but pellets produce more smoke and do a better job filling up my New Pellet Smoker.
 
If you choose to order, I would get the AMNPS and also order a bag of sawdust, to see what works best for your smoker
OR.....
If your only gonna "Cold Smoke", and have a smaller smoker, get the 6x6 and save a few bucks!
 
 
Thanks again!/Anytime!


 

 

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OK - last question - what is the burn time when using dust?



Dust burns at about 4" per hour.

6x6 will "Cold Smoke" for about 8 hours

6x8 will "Cold Smoke" for about 10 hours

Pellet Smoker will "Cold Smoke" for about 8 hours on sawdust and 12 hours using Pellets.

 

Ask Away!

 

 

Todd

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post #12 of 12
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Edit - missed last post - thanks for the clarification!

 

OK - So, I went with the AMNPS - Can't wait to try it:)!


Edited by SoTx - 10/28/11 at 11:18am
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