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post #21 of 30

Yee Ha, That chimney looks like a great idea! Who ever came up with that should get a medal!! That's the great thing about these forums.

Now to get myself feeling good enough to go out and smoke something!

post #22 of 30
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Originally Posted by bamatmac View Post

Thanks, Todd & Bear.  I'm purely a hot smoker, and here in Georgia, it's almost always hot and w/o wind so maybe that's my issue.  I'll try Bear's advice and spend some extra time getting it really hot.  I've been doing some of that, but not 15-20 minutes worth...closer to the 5-10 Todd recommended.  

 

Todd, why do you say to NOT remove the chip loader?  That seems to help get more oxygen into the smoker (but I could be wrong).  Does it cause another problem (heat loss, etc)?  Just curious...

 

Thanks again...maybe I'll give it another shot this weekend.


Bama,

I'm sure Todd will give you a better answer, but it seems removing the chip loader causes a bit of an air curtain, sometimes making the problem worse.

 

Bear

 

post #23 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by bamatmac View Post

Thanks, Todd & Bear.  I'm purely a hot smoker, and here in Georgia, it's almost always hot and w/o wind so maybe that's my issue.  I'll try Bear's advice and spend some extra time getting it really hot.  I've been doing some of that, but not 15-20 minutes worth...closer to the 5-10 Todd recommended.  

 

Todd, why do you say to NOT remove the chip loader?  That seems to help get more oxygen into the smoker (but I could be wrong).  Does it cause another problem (heat loss, etc)?  Just curious...

 

Thanks again...maybe I'll give it another shot this weekend.

 

Through testing, I've tried every combination possible for Cold Smoking and Hot Smoking with the AMNPS in the MES and other smokers I could get my hands on.  I even tried adding a small computer fan to the intake of the MES.

 

Common sense would say, "In-order to add more intake air, you should remove the chip loader completely....Right"?

When you remove the chip loader, the AMNPS inside the  MES will starve for air. 

The MES seems to stop drafting, and will actually back draft thru the exhaust, if there is even a slight breeze.

 

Conclusion:

The heating element directly below the Chip Pan Housing seems to heat the area around the intake hole and not allow air to enter.  It almost acts like an "Air Curtain". 

By installing the Chip Loader and only pulling it out 1/4 way, the intake works properly.

You reduce the intake air by it pushing back in all the way.

 

Try this and you'll be surprised!

 

Also, adding a chimney really helped add draft thru the unit.

Follow the starting procedure and DO NOT rush it!

 

 

Todd

 

 

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post #24 of 30

Here's a couple videos from a new customer, who just got his A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER and decided to video it's maiden voyage.

Medo is using a WSM, but the AMNPS works the same in other smokers.

 

Follow the starting procedure and allow the flame to burn for at least 5 minutes, before you blow it out. 

It's just like making a fire with charcoal in your grill.  Without a good bed of coals, the rest of the charcoal won't burn!

 

 

Use the starter hole....Please?

 

Here's the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PztyWml_IJY&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9HPyEKjR3s&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

 

 

Hope this helps!!

 

 

Todd

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post #25 of 30

The FAQ on the website seems to recommend removing the chip loader completely for the AMNS.

 

Quote: From AMNS product website

I own a Masterbuilt 30” or 40” Smoker and my AMNS starts and burns good outside my smoker, but slows or goes out when I place it inside my smoker?

  • The AMNS is starved for air/oxygen and Masterbuilt Electric Smokers do not provide much air/oxygen intake.  Remove the chip loader and pull out the chip drawer approx. 1 ½”.  This will increase the air/oxygen intake for the smoker and create a slight draft.

 

post #26 of 30

I should clarify that this is for "Cold Smoking"

 

I've had success with the Chip loader in, out all the way and out 1/4 of the way.  I'm not really sure what is going on, but at high temps, the MES seems to perform better with the chip loader installed

 

Todd

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post #27 of 30

These are some great videos.  After watching these I know for sure I did not have my pellets going well enough.  Hopefully this weekend I will be able to give it another shot.

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Originally Posted by TJohnson View Post

Here's a couple videos from a new customer, who just got his A-MAZE-N-PELLET-SMOKER and decided to video it's maiden voyage.

Medo is using a WSM, but the AMNPS works the same in other smokers.

 

Follow the starting procedure and allow the flame to burn for at least 5 minutes, before you blow it out. 

It's just like making a fire with charcoal in your grill.  Without a good bed of coals, the rest of the charcoal won't burn!

 

 

Use the starter hole....Please?

 

Here's the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PztyWml_IJY&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9HPyEKjR3s&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

 

 

Hope this helps!!

 

 

Todd



 

post #28 of 30

The metal DOES NOT need to be "Glowing Red"

 

TJ

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post #29 of 30

I own the AMNPS and the MES 30 and i have to agree with Todd on the chip pan out about 3/4 of a inch and the chip loader about a fourth of the way pulled out. I put mine on the bars next to the chip pan and have had zero problems with it burning correctly. You are right about having the pellets burning well before you insert the AMNPS into your smoker...i leave mine burn at least 5 to 7 minutes before inserting it into my smoker and right before it is put in i blow on the burning pellets to get them really glowing red. This method hasn't failed me yet. Also water pan dry makes a huge difference.

post #30 of 30
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Thanks to everyone who helped me out with the AMNPS. The information given to me has worked well and the AMNPS truly is a great addition!

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