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post #21 of 31
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Originally Posted by stovebolt View Post

    Tinkerin,

   It was harder than it looks. The stainless is thin but tough and hard to drill with a hole saw. If I were to do it again I would

   probably just snip out some from the center of the piece without even removing it. Anything to get more heat to the chip

   pan. I suppose they did that due to the larger heating element than the older models. The retro pan sits just about on the

   element with no metal between them. Even so it seems to work well with larger wood.

    I'm like you, I have 5 acres if mostly oak with just a few hickories. I like oak personally but it's a bit strong for the wife.

 

  Chuck

 


No--They did that on their MES 30 too. They did it because of complaints of "flare-ups" with the old setup, which in my opinion worked GREAT !

 

The change they made was a screw-up. They tried to make something better & it made it worse!

The retro is nothing more than the chip burner setup that was in the earlier models, like the MES 30 I got 2 years ago (exactly the same thing).

That's why I recommend people get the retro-fix---Why cut holes in a screw-up?---Just get the FREE fix.

Fixing the dumper like Todd did is different---They aren't giving out FREE full length dumpers.

 

Kinda like if I got a new pick-up, and the air conditioning didn't work, I wouldn't be drilling holes all over my truck.   eek.gif

I'd get the FREE AC FIX.

 

Bear

post #22 of 31
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No--They did that on their MES 30 too. They did it because of complaints of "flare-ups" with the old setup, which in my opinion worked GREAT !

 

The change they made was a screw-up. They tried to make something better & it made it worse!

The retro is nothing more than the chip burner setup that was in the earlier models, like the MES 30 I got 2 years ago (exactly the same thing).

That's why I recommend people get the retro-fix---Why cut holes in a screw-up?---Just get the FREE fix.

Fixing the dumper like Todd did is different---They aren't giving out FREE full length dumpers.

 

Kinda like if I got a new pick-up, and the air conditioning didn't work, I wouldn't be drilling holes all over my truck.   eek.gif

I'd get the FREE AC FIX.

 

Bear


    Bear,

  That is my thoughts too. That's what I did, but I tried various things just for my own satisfaction

 that this was the best set-up.

  This pic shows the modified OEM chip-pan holder assembly as well as the chip-loader with

 the blocker removed ready for the larger retro-kit. The retro-kit is the way to go.

 

Photo0616.jpg

 

  The loader is easy to modify with a Dremel tool and a thin cutting disc.

  To sum up. Modifying the small chip-pan helps it work much better but the good set-up is the

 retro-kit and it's free.

  Then, of course, get an AMNS and you have a great machine for any kind of smoking.

 

 Chuck

 

 

post #23 of 31
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Originally Posted by stovebolt View Post


    Bear,

  That is my thoughts too. That's what I did, but I tried various things just for my own satisfaction

 that this was the best set-up.

  This pic shows the modified OEM chip-pan holder assembly as well as the chip-loader with

 the blocker removed ready for the larger retro-kit. The retro-kit is the way to go.

 

Photo0616.jpg

 

  The loader is easy to modify with a Dremel tool and a thin cutting disc.

  To sum up. Modifying the small chip-pan helps it work much better but the good set-up is the

 retro-kit and it's free.

  Then, of course, get an AMNS and you have a great machine for any kind of smoking.

 

 Chuck


This is an excellent post. I wish I could think of where to put it, so I don't forget where I put it.

This shows that you did some outstanding modification to the "Half drawer setup that doesn't smoke right", and the FREE retro-fix is still the way to go.

You must be from the "Show-Me" state!!!!

 

Awesome scientific investigation!

 

Thanks,

Bear

 

post #24 of 31

 Bear,

Thanks for the kind words. I was just hoping it would be useful info for someone. I have certainly gotten tons of great

information from this forum.

 

 Chuck

 

post #25 of 31
Good luck with it
post #26 of 31
Thread Starter 

So after another couple of less than satisfactory smokes, I threw in the towel and ordered the retro-kit.  Should be here next week.  Weekend smoke with amazn and the less than perfect chip tray. 

 

Sure appreciate all the input and advice from everyone!

 

May your weekend smokes exceed all expectations beercheer.gif

post #27 of 31
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Weekend smoke with amazn and the less than perfect chip tray. 

 

 

I feel like the fat chick at the prom th_dunno-1[1].gif

 

Todd

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post #28 of 31
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I feel like the fat chick at the prom th_dunno-1%5B1%5D.gif

 

Todd

Not at all Todd- all things in balance and moderation.icon_wink.gif

I figure I bought the amazn to go with the smoker, not the smoker to go with the amazn, sooo....the dang smoker should work as it was designed to, just as the amazn does!

 

You might want to know your product was the hit of the neighborhood last weekend though.  But not the way it was designed to be....my neighbors got quite the kick out of watching me with a chainsaw, 5 gallon bucket and 10 inch diameter cherry tree.  They just couldn't figure out why I was going through so many gyrations to line up the bucket under the chainsaw with my leg behind bucket as a backstop for spraying chip/dust  110.gif

 

Told 'em I had a new smoker device that I needed fuel for, and if they didn't stop laughing, they would never taste anything that come out of the smoker.  Didn't help that tree was in my front yard. 

 

It's much easier to order yours, yes, but one should always have a back up plan.  Think I ended up with about a half gallon of cherry wood chip/dust icon_frown.gif
 

 

post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by tinkerin View Post



Not at all Todd- all things in balance and moderation.icon_wink.gif

I figure I bought the amazn to go with the smoker, not the smoker to go with the amazn, sooo....the dang smoker should work as it was designed to, just as the amazn does!

 

You might want to know your product was the hit of the neighborhood last weekend though.  But not the way it was designed to be....my neighbors got quite the kick out of watching me with a chainsaw, 5 gallon bucket and 10 inch diameter cherry tree.  They just couldn't figure out why I was going through so many gyrations to line up the bucket under the chainsaw with my leg behind bucket as a backstop for spraying chip/dust  110.gif

 

Told 'em I had a new smoker device that I needed fuel for, and if they didn't stop laughing, they would never taste anything that come out of the smoker.  Didn't help that tree was in my front yard. 

 

It's much easier to order yours, yes, but one should always have a back up plan.  Think I ended up with about a half gallon of cherry wood chip/dust icon_frown.gif
 

 

Tinkerin,

Hoping you're not using regular bar & chain oil. Should be using cooking oil in your reservoir instead.

 

Yes Mother Bear!

 

Bear
 

 

post #30 of 31
Thread Starter 

Nah,  I'm using that nasty sticky oil.  This wasn't actually a plan to use this specific gathering for smoking- I did know there was bad stuff in that bar oil and not to use it in the smoker.  I had to get the tree out of the yard and figured it was a good time to 'practice'.  I just was curious as to how well regular chainsaw chip/dust would work.  It's clearly a different size than Todd's even with my dull chain.  Figured to let it season a while and then do a no-food test burn.  For ALL practical purposes I intend to use Todd's stuff.

 

In the meantime- two butt's on the MES right now biggrin.gif  with some cherry and hickory.  Mostly hickory.  And NO chainsaw dust!

post #31 of 31
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Originally Posted by tinkerin View Post

Nah,  I'm using that nasty sticky oil.  This wasn't actually a plan to use this specific gathering for smoking- I did know there was bad stuff in that bar oil and not to use it in the smoker.  I had to get the tree out of the yard and figured it was a good time to 'practice'.  I just was curious as to how well regular chainsaw chip/dust would work.  It's clearly a different size than Todd's even with my dull chain.  Figured to let it season a while and then do a no-food test burn.  For ALL practical purposes I intend to use Todd's stuff.

 

In the meantime- two butt's on the MES right now biggrin.gif  with some cherry and hickory.  Mostly hickory.  And NO chainsaw dust!

 

OK---Just watching your PA Back.

 

You could have carved a couple Bears while you were "practicing". They don't mind a little oil.  biggrin.gif

 

Ahhhhh, I love that Hickory Smoke! And Cherry is my back-up.

 

Bear
 

 

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