so this morning I was over on another forum I frequent, an automotive forum, and someone had posted a picture of a smoker he had made out of an old oven. Basically he'd put a hot plate in the bottom and some angle iron for a chip tray holder. Complete with pictures of some pretty heavy white smoke. So I gave him a little advice about TBS and white smoke and that he should add some kind of vent for the top so the smoke has somewhere to go. Another guy chimes in and responds to my post with this little gem: Don't even know where to start with that one.