LEMs got great stuff, got one a there 5 lb stuffers an really like it, it's got the metal gears. Grinder, fer small stuff I bought a #32 grinder an am motorizin it, fer the big batch's I got the commercial grinder, but if ya ain't grindin over 100lbs a meat it takes to long ta clean. Slicer, well all I can say is commercial. Got 2 a the real old globe slicers, can't be beat. Bought a few of the cheaper models an I kill em quick.