Pit Masters

[alblancher]

JDT,

I would think that "pulled pork" is different from sliced pork butt.  It may be cooked the same but how it's shredded (chopped or pulled), the amount of fat included in the meat (can't be picked away by the judge), the amount of sauce mixed into the pulled pork(can't be scrapped off) and the presentation are different.  You also have to rely on the taste of the meat instead of use the smoke ring as proof of a good smoke.  You're right I don't visit many competitions, visitors  usually don't get to experience/taste the submitted entries so I never bother.  The plate presented to the judges is different than the food dished out to the public. 

Catfish? as a side entry?    Also every cole slaw I have ever made was mayo and vinegar based, which would have disqualified me because the "judges" wanted vinegar and sweet. Are there rules as to how the slaw should be prepared?  In your competitions in Iowa are the competitors notified of the sides before the event, or just 1 hour prior to submittal?   My slaw sits in the refrigerator overnight before serving.

I'll watch the next show, or I should say that the next show will be part of my normal channel flipping.

Al

 

[placebo]

 I know most of you are so cool you go to contests hoping not to win and just piss away $600 or $800 but some people will take a $250-$750 side dish prize with pride and use it to go to another comp later down the line. .  

Perhaps it's just me but this seems a bit harsh and I can't see anything in this thread that would have provoked such a comment.
 

 

[kcbluesnbbq]

I don't know if TLC is plannig on some other BBQ shows or not, but they had a display setup at the Great American BBQ at Kansas City this last May. I never saw them filming, but some people told me they were out with cameras crews.

Slap Your Daddy team was 1 space away from us, so you wonder if they are following some teams like last years Pitmasters.

I would have to say the only good part of the new episode is Myron telling it his way. Will watch again and then decide if it is worth it.

 

[beer-b-q]

Warren Sapp even said to one of them, I believe it was Moe, "You just sliced it, No Pulled Pork?". 

To me to vote the only one who followed the theme off was really stupid.  So Much for Rules...  It wouldn't happen with KCBS Rules.

I was personally pulling for Moe but I believe there was more to his winning than his cooking.

 

[meatball]

I thought the one redeeming thing was that Warren Sapp was on the show. I'm biased because I'm a huge Bucs fan, but I love Sapp. The guy is total charisma and believe me, that dude can eat. As for the rest of it....well, I'll probably keep watching just out of morbid curiousity. Hopefully it will be Sapp-tastic!

 

[eman]

Real Smokers know that smoking or grilling is the preperation method. Pulling or slicing are a way of serving the pork and the finish temps for each are different

 If the rules call for pulled pork then it should be pulled or chopped at least.

 If a KCBS  judge can't differ between the two they need some education.

 

[jjwdiver]

At least I now get to free up some more space on my Tivo - just erased the "Season Pass" to record the future episodes.  Watched this one and was not impressed at all.  I call B.S.

 

[eman]

At least I now get to free up some more space on my Tivo - just erased the "Season Pass" to record the future episodes.  Watched this one and was not impressed at all.  I call B.S.

I agree!
 

 

[bunk]

Very disapointed in this season. They really need to change the name, it is not the same show. I bought a smoker becouse of last season.  As stated above I will be taking this off my DVR.

 

[meateater]

Very disapointed in this season. They really need to change the name, it is not the same show. I bought a smoker becouse of last season.  As stated above I will be taking this off my DVR.

Glad you got the smoking bug, stick round here and learn the right way, lot's of great smoked meat from the heart round here. Then there's bacon,sausage,and lots of other treasures you thought you had to buy and couldn't make at home.

 

[diesel fanatic]

Okay, I love smoked catfish ... I smoked 3 pounds yesterday over pecan (and it was goooood). But the competition was for pulled pork ... and one team was told to put out their fire!!!!! P!$$ed me off right off the bat ... maybe the hippies had the best bark or smoke ring ... but we will never know!!!!! And the winner was chosen because he had the best slaw????

And Tainted Sauce was the ONLY pulled pork presented .... she should have won even before they tasted it!!!!  Just another dumba$$ scripted reality show. I learn more from watching 5 minutes of Primal Grill with Steven Riachlan than I did this whole show!!!! What a joke!!!!

P.S. ... what is coleslaw without mayo????? <<<PICKLED CABBAGE!!!>>> (just my 2 cents)

 

[jdt]

Warren Sapp even said to one of them, I believe it was Moe, "You just sliced it, No Pulled Pork?". 

To me to vote the only one who followed the theme off was really stupid.  So Much for Rules...  It wouldn't happen with KCBS Rules.

I was personally pulling for Moe but I believe there was more to his winning than his cooking.

 

[jdt]

Real Smokers know that smoking or grilling is the preperation method. Pulling or slicing are a way of serving the pork and the finish temps for each are different

 If the rules call for pulled pork then it should be pulled or chopped at least.

 If a KCBS  judge can't differ between the two they need some education.

My education taught me that KCBS does not have a pulled pork category......its a pork category experts, seems as if KCBS agrees

10) The Four KCBS Meat Categories:
CHICKEN: Chicken includes Cornish Game Hen and Kosher
Chicken.
PORK RIBS: Ribs shall include the bone. Country style ribs are
prohibited.
PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Picnic and/or Whole
Shoulder, weighing a minimum of five (5) pounds. Pork shall
be cooked whole

I guess splitting hairs wise, sliced pork and pulled pork are two seperate things, my argument would be if a butt is taken to 200 degrees wrapped in foil and sat on the counter for 20 minutes what is it, simply a smoked butt?

If you are pulling the bone and your grandma or grandkid asks for a nice big slice you gonna say "no ganny/sonny this is pulled pork"

Once its cooked I view it as pulled pork. The money muscle is what is getting turned in anyway, sliced, pulled or I have even seen cubbed money muscle on occasion.

 

[alblancher]

JDT,

Judging from your qualifications you know the KCBS rules and are familiar with the competitions.  I know that when I go to a BBQ restaurant and order a pulled pork sandwich I do not expect sliced pork.  As I previously mentioned the amount of fat, gristle, bark, sauce included in a pulled pork sandwich is determined by the cook.  The amount of fat, gristle, bark, sauce in a fork full of sliced pork or on a sandwich is determined by me.  Big difference in my opinion.   

Maybe  KCBS is wrong on this one.

Al 

 

[warthog]

Sapp is nothing but as the tag goes an EATER.  Anything in quantity tasted good to him. Can someone explain what the judges were doing with knifes and forks?

 

[brdprey]

Personally i would have liked to have seen instead of elimination that side pots be taken such as the cat fry....instead of losing and having to waste that meat....the winner got an extra 500 bucks or somthing. second 200 etc.....and save the final comp for what they went there for in the beginning, shoulder butts.. but its mho.

 

[carpetride]

You tell me you want pulled pork your going to get pulled pork.  You tell me you want sliced pork and that is what you will get.  They darn well aren't going to be the same. 

The sides should been just that...a side competition for cash or equipment.  Everybody is right it isn't the same show but I may watch another episode or two just for the drama.

 

[mudduck]

You tell me you want pulled pork your going to get pulled pork.  You tell me you want sliced pork and that is what you will get.  They darn well aren't going to be the same. 

The sides should been just that...a side competition for cash or equipment.  Everybody is right it isn't the same show but I may watch another episode or two just for the drama.

I'M with you carpetride

i think if they judge the sides it should be different from the main bbq

then if they can cook fish and make cool slaw OK then give the winner something good

for it not sent them home like kids.

 

[brdprey]

lol just thought if they had an atitude section poor myron would be sent home before it starts.