Decided i waited long enough to try smoking a meatloaf, so had the smoker up to temp by 11:00 and in she went. Just made a loose pan out of foil and punched some holes in it so the fat would drain into a catch pan in the bottom of the CC. Pulled it at 170° IT and immediately had to sample it. It was five kinds of awesome! 1st pic ready to go in the smoker Second pic when it came out Don't know why I struggled so long with a cheapo box smoker!