Help starting a side bbq smoking business at festivals

Discussion in 'Food Safety' started by whollysmokes1, Jun 16, 2010.

  1. Well I guys I came across this website 2 days ago and found it very useful and I know there are people on here who can help my wife and I out. We live in Northeast Ga. and have recently bought a smoker trailer to start smoking and selling bbq at local fall festivals this fall. As we began to research after we bought it and talked to our health department we realized that there are obstacles in our way that is frustrating such as adding a 3 compartment sink to the trailer for washings hands with hot water and the other compartments for cleaning utensils. Is it possible to make this smoker trailer legal by the health department and what all are we needing to do to this to meet regulations?

    Thank,

    Chris
     
  2. pops6927

    pops6927 Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Yes, it's usually very easy to satisfy health department sanitation regulations with 3 clean buckets and a source of hot water, such as a large commercial coffee urn hooked to a portable generator if no on-site electricity is available, or even a big pot on top of the firebox if it's flat or you could weld a flat plate to it.  You can then wash, rinse and sanitize your utensils as you wish, set up on a portable folding table.  Use a tent to protect from bird droppings on your food, wear gloves, etc.

    Drop on over to Roll Call and introduce yourselves if you would, don't forget to post some Qview of your rig (pictures - just hit the little square above that says "Insert Image" above, 4 icons to the left of the smiley face) and let us know all about you and your business and show us some examples of your Q so we can drool!
     
  3. newflame

    newflame Meat Mopper

    what pops said, I use three plastic tubs, a coffee percolator, gloves, roasters, and a canopy, and i've met all the health codes required, though some inspectors are more difficult than others to get along with..
     
  4. So you used the coffee percolator to heat your water? Did you have a reservoir tank water and a holding tank for the waste water?
     
  5. newflame

    newflame Meat Mopper

    nope.
     
  6. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    Be sure to check what your state wants its varies from state to state
     
  7. travcoman45

    travcoman45 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Check with yer county HI to, cause it can vary that way also.  Them folk will tell ya exactly what ya need ta meet there code.  Some places er easy an others be a pain in the butt.  Mine ain't all that bad hear.
     
  8. +1 on the flat plate on the firebox. This is a great way to keep a source of hot water handy. I use this setup along with 3 buckets for smaller events.

    I also have a 3 section sink with a 50gal drum wrapped in waterheater blankets for insulation, with a propane tank and burner hooked to it. With the burner on simmer I can maintain the drum at the proper temp for 10+ hours. I have the faucett of the sink connected to the drum.

    The sink setup is alot nicer for larger events when I will have alot of dishes to wash. I have a friend that has the same type of setup but is using an actual propane waterheater at the storage tank.

    The health dept is mainly looking to ensure you have a way of sanitizing all of your cookware and utensils, ALWAYS check with them on a quarterly basis to ensure the code has not changed.

    Below is a cut and paste from the FDA, this is basically the same for every state's helth dept.

    For hand washing, rinsing, and sanitizing of utensils and equipment, a sink with at least three separate basins should be used. If you do not have three sinks (one each for washing, rinsing, and sanitizing), dish tubs can be used. Each basin should be large enough to accommodate large pots and pans and have its own faucet to supply hot and cold water. Dish or utensil baskets should permit complete immersion of the tableware, kitchenware, utensils, and other equipment in the hot water.

    Always clean the sink thoroughly prior to each use. Equipment and utensils should be prescraped and/or prerinsed and, when necessary, presoaked to remove large food particles, soil, and stains. Equipment and utensils should be thoroughly washed in the first compartment with a hot detergent solution and the water/detergent solution should be frequently changed. Equipment and utensils should be rinsed free of detergent and abrasives with clean water in the second basin. The food contact surfaces of all equipment and utensils are sanitized in the third basin.

    Sanitizing


    There are several methods of sanitizing. These include:
    • Immersion for at least 30 seconds in clean, hot water, at least 170°F.
    • Immersion for at least one minute in a solution containing at least 50 parts per million, but not more than 200 parts per million, of available chlorine as a hypochlorite, at a temperature of at least 75°F.
    • Immersion for at least one minute in a solution containing at least 12.5 parts per million, but not more than 25 parts per million, of available iodine with a pH not higher than 5.0 at a temperature of at least 75°F.
    • Immersion for at least one minute in a solution containing 200 parts per million of a quaternary ammonium compound and at a temperature of at least 75°F.
    • If other sanitizing chemicals are used, it should provide the equivalent bactericidal effect of a solution containing at least 50 parts per million of available chlorine, at a temperature of at least 75°F.

    Maintaining Equipment


    When hot water is used for sanitizing, the heating device located in, on, or under the sanitizing compartment of the sink, should be maintained to assure the water is kept at a temperature of at least 170°F. In addition, a numeric thermometer accurate to within three degrees must be in the sink or located conveniently for frequent checks of water temperature.

    Temperature logs for recording temperatures taken during the day should be located near the sink. When chemicals are used for sanitization, they should not have concentrations higher than the maximum permitted for that chemical, and a test kit or other device that accurately measures the parts per million concentration of the solution should be used. The test strips should be used each time the water is changed, and the strips may be taped to a log sheet near the sink. It is important to routinely check these concentrations because chemical concentrations can be harmful if they are too high and ineffective if too low.
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2010
  9. dutch

    dutch Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Double check with your local health department on the requirements for hand washing and dish washing.  My local code will not allow hand washing in a 3 sink set-up.  The hand washing station must be a seperate set-up from the 3 sink set-up.  For hand washing, I use a 5 gallon water container with a spigot with a 5 gallon bucket under the spigot to catch the dirty water and a bar of soap stuck in an old nylon knee-hi sock tied to the wash stand.
     
  10. lugnutz

    lugnutz Smoking Fanatic

    this is interesting !! we have a small farmers market every Thurs so maybe I could do something like this..wait..I work Thursdays [​IMG]

    Guess I'll have to teach wife to smoke [​IMG]
     

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