First UDS (mini) build

Discussion in 'UDS Builds' started by manfjourde, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    I built a mini-WSM in a few hours and love it but wanted something a bit bigger.

    Well, I got a new 30 gallon drum from Zoro tools for a decent price and did a burn and painted but the primer I used was high heat and the paint was high heat grill paint, both by Rustoleum. The paint never really hardened and could be easily scratched off but upon looking at the can it stated it was to not be used with primer. Anyway, I asked a few questions but thought I would just do a build thread and post questions and updates here.

    Here are links to the other 2 threads with the questions.
    http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/183790/can-i-season-my-drum#post_1340968

    http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/184516/sandblast-seasoned-uds#post_1345021

    I called a few places for blasting prices and found one that is owned by some parents of students I teach (I'm an elementary teacher) and the dad offered to do it for free! I'm so stoked so I'll take him some Rockstars as a thanks (he loves them) and hopefully some Q when it's all done. I'll try to get some pics of the progress too and ask questions.
     
  2. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Another thing to look at when you go to repaint is most high temp paints also needs to cure at higher temps for a period of time.
     
  3. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    In definitely going to follow the process to the T. I did do a bit of curing but I'll gonna use the weed burner to heat it a bit and help cure.
     
  4. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Others have had problems with Rustoleum in the spray can. It's my understanding the brush on works better. For higher temp paints look at your local auto parts store. Header paint is the best route to go.
     
  5. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    Good to know on the brushing vs cans. I was planning on getting some header paint - do I need a header primer too or can I just use the paint?
     
  6. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Depends on the manufacturer. The brand that I have used did not require primer.
     
  7. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    Good to know, thanks. 

    I have 4 1" holes drilled with a hole saw but am unsure what to do to regulate air. I don't love the nipple/ball approach because I think i'll stub my toes but when I put a free magnet on when I seasoned it it melted lol. Are there any other good methods to do this?
     
  8. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Honestly to get the best control on your airflow having valved inlets is the way to go.

    You could make metal flaps that you can screw on and rotate to close or open the hole.
     
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  9. bmaddox

    bmaddox Master of the Pit

    You could use a fitting like this with a cap:

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    Or this style (I have two of these in addition to my ball valve)

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    The only problem with this style is they are either opened or closed.
     
  10. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    I just picked up some "close" nipples like the first pic along with some caps and a ball valve.

    I also got some conduit nuts - do they need to soak in vinegar or something to remove the coating?

    And...what is the best order to install the intake parts on the drum and each other?
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2015
  11. bmaddox

    bmaddox Master of the Pit

    I was able to drill the holes tight enough to thread the nipples into the drum without the need for a conduit ring. If you drilled the holes too large and have to use one, you could burn the coating off with a torch.
     
  12. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    Cool, I'll give it a shot when I have it back. Tonight is welding night with my bro-in-law, we"re gonna weld a few baskets that I can throw in storage because I know I'll be building more of these in the future too.
     
  13. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    Well I picked up my barrel from blasting and it looks great with basically no surface rust. I hope to pick up paint tomorrow and get on it this weekend.



    I then scored a deal at Lowes and got 8 bags (20 lb each) for $39 after tax! I love slickdeals.net and scoring deals which is where I saw the deal on charcoal.


    Then I went to my bro-in-law's and welded 2 baskets. We tried welding the basket for the mini-WSM but the expanded steel was too thin so I will be using wire or getting thicker expanded. Bending that 3/4" was a pain, I used my weed torch and it helped. One basket is 10.5" and the other is 12" high which should work in the mini UDS and then a full size UDS in the future.



    What do you suggest for a grommet for a Maverick ET-732? I am thinking the slot that is cut at the top, some rubber grommets from Maverick, or the lamp grommet. Thoughts?

    Now I just need some meat..
     
  14. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    You can weld the 18 gauge expanded from HD and Lowes for the mini Baskets. If using MIG you just need to turn down the AMPs and watch closely so you don't burn through. I'll be using two sheets tonight to make a new basket for my UDS. I'll post some photos. Here's a basket  Iwelded up for one of the mini-wsm's out of 18 gauge.

     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2015
  15. Nice, Looking Good

    Gary
     
  16. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    Well I picked up some rebar wire for the mini-WSM for now and got some flat Rustoleum and did what ribwizzard says to do for painting it. this is during 2 coats. It had a bit of surface rust in the small pores of the blasted steel but worked well as an etcher. I heated the inside to about 160*F, let it cool to 100*F and did 4 light coats, 1 every 15 mins. 


    I soaked the conduit nuts in vinegar/lemon juice and then burned them with the weed burner for a bit. They went milky white and a bit yellow. Is that bad?

     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2015
  17. timberjet

    timberjet Master of the Pit

    You may find you don't need the conduit nuts anyway. I would have done the same thing you did and torched them. I'm sure they are fine now. What are you going to use for ash pans under your baskets?
     
  18. timberjet

    timberjet Master of the Pit


    The ash pan is a necessity. I used the bottom of a rusted out propane tank. You could use just about anything though.
     
  19. manfjourde

    manfjourde Fire Starter

    I was thinking of using the lid from the Imusa pot - it's about 1/2" tall, I may give that a shot and if it's too shallow I'll hunt for something else.
     
  20. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That will work fine. All I use is a pizza pan and there's almost no lip at all.
     

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