I been puting off tryin' my hand at a pork loin roll and I think I am gonna stick a few in my homemade offset smoker. It has done a good job on everything so far, better than I was expecting. Figgered that I would keep it sorta simple and just stuff it with stovetop stuffing, mushrooms, bell pepper and onions. I forgot the garlic so I just dosed it with powdered garlic.. give U breath bad enough to run off evil spirits and most people. I stole the rub recipe offa the net somewhere... The Rub 3/4 cup paprika 1/4 cup fresh ground pepper 1/4 cup coarse salt (i use sea salt) 1/4 cup sugar (Your choice) 2 tbsp chili powder 2 tbsp garlic powder 2 tbsp oinion powder 2 tsp cayenne ( I prefer around 4) but the wife will beat me iffin' I use more than two.. The cleaver is something I been meanin' to make ever since Moby **** was a minnow. The ones I got ain't heavy enough unless they are big and bulky. This one is made of thicker spring steel,3/8 X 3'' truck spring. just outta the forge. Ain't as big but just thicker.. I will post more pictures as soon as I can make them smaller. Believe it or not lately I been useing shoe strings to bake with. LOL.. I bought a BUNCH of them at an auction in a sealed bulk bag. All cotton and just trim off the plastic ends. [leaves a funky taste in yer mouth] I really believe I got a lifetime's supply. works great in a rotissery [?] also..