Double Barrel Build

Discussion in 'Smoker Builds' started by smokinnh, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    Well, I had a successful trip to Vermont over the weekend to get my barrels.


    I left after work on Friday and drove up to my mothers house in Jericho, VT and spent the weekend doing odd jobs for her and helped get the boat ready for the season. After a disappointing night watching the Bruins on Saturday, I arose Sunday with visions of TBS in my mind! I was on the road at 9:00 on my way to pick up the trailer at UHAUL in Burlington. Took way too long there but got on the road for Middlebury a little after 10:00.


    Now, I am going to have give a shout out to Vermont Soap. http://vermontsoap.com/ They were great and worked with me so that I could pick the barrels on Sunday. They are normally closed on the weekends but Jeremiah said he had to come in to check the batches anyway so he agreed to meet me at the factory at 11. Thanks a lot Jeremiah! He started asking what I was going to do with them so I explained the design and that I was trying to duplicate my dad's design. Dad passed away in 2010 and I am kind of doing this as a way to reconnect I guess. So anyway, got all 6 loaded up (my sister is going to make one as well) paid the man $30 and I was off to deliver 3 of them to my sister in Danvers, MA.


    I must have missed a turn somewhere because I ended up out in the boonies going down a couple single track roads and then up over Brandon Mountain Gap. I love an adventure don't you!



    I got out to stretch the legs and enjoy the cool air for a minute and snapped this picture. I thought the trailer license plate was appropriate considering I am hauling barrels for a smoker.


    It was absolutely beautiful and made me start thinking I might want to move back to VT. I need to look into job options. I followed the White River most of the way until I hit interstate 89 and then the fun was over and the work began. I finally got to my sisters around 3, unloaded the barrels grabbed a sausage that she had just finished grilling and an adult beverage and headed home. I was hot, cranky, and ready to be out of the truck. Pulled into my driveway at just after 5:00, and unloaded the truck/trailer. I was greeted by my neighbor walking over with another frosty beverage which I GLADLY accepted.


    So it was a long day in the truck, and HOT to boot, it was about 95 when I got home. Total distance traveled was 285 miles and took me about 6 hours of drive time with 2 hours of misc stops, but, I got my barrels!!!





    Food Grade, and Kosher! All three held organic coconut oil so I'm good to go. I'm trying to decide if I am going to take all the paint off now and repaint in the high temp paint before I start cutting them up and assembling them. Suggestions?

    Well I'll keep you posted as I start getting this thing rolling, I will be working as fast as my bank account will allow!
    Cheers!
     
  2. Remove all of the paint and use high temp. Wait to paint untill you have finished the build.

    Happy smoken.

    DAvid
     
  3. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    I've been going back and forth on how to remove the paint. I have an angle grinder that I could put a wire brush on to take it off, or I've also heard about people burning the paint off. What would be the best method?
     
  4. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Probably burning out the barrel would be a good choice.....   It needs a good burn out sooner or later to remove any volatile compounds that may be harmful when heated...  Then power wire brush inside and out....  paint and season with a food grade oil on the inside like a spray that comes in a can.....  For a removable lid, below is one method.....

                               ....click on pics to enlarge.......

                     

    Or something similar...  A piece of sheet metal can be bolted to the bottom section of the drum to raise the drum wall height and then the lid installed on that raised portion, for more room in the smoker....

    Dave
     
  5. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    DaveOmak, thanks for the reply. I get what your drawing is getting at but that would make my build difficult. I do not want to cut the ends off.This picture is the design I am doing using the Vogelzang barrel stove kit, not an UDS. I wish I had one of those propane weed burners...I bet that would work great!!
     
  6. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Nifty looking smoker! The propane weed burners work great if you are going to burn the paint off. I just took a barrel to my powder coat shop. $75 to sand blast the interior and exterior and then powder coat the outside. To just sand blast would have been $25.  Harbor freight has good prices on the weed burners.
     
  7. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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    LOL......  There you go.... Talk about not knowing what is going on !!!!    Looks  like I'm on a south bound train trying to head north....  
     
  8. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    Haha, no problem. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something! I am no expert by any means!
     
  9. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    Dirtsailor, is that price for just one barrel? I haven't even thought to look into that but it makes a lot of sense! You must have had it powder coated post build right?
     
  10. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yes just one barrel. I have all the holes drilled for the parts I will attaching to the drum but I have not done any assembly. . They're a $100/hr shop so I guess it only takes about 15 minutes for them to blast a drum.  I had it coated prior to assembly because the parts are already finished.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2013
  11. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    Interesting, I will have to look into it. I got talking to a buddy last night and I guess he has a friend that owns a body shop. I might be able to get in there to sand blast the barrels after I get them all cut up. Then I should be good to go. What Kind of smoker are you making? UDS?
     
  12. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Yes a UDS. I also built a Mini-WSM and I currently am restoring my Grandfathers Casa Q smoker.
     
  13. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    Well the rain finally cooperated for a little bit up here and I was able to get the top barrel cut open and the lid cut out too.Just in case anyone doubted me...Certified Organic Coconut Oil, and Kosher! One problem i am currently trying to solve is the plastic bung caps you can see in this pic. There is a scrap yard on my way home, I am going to try to stop by one of these days and see if they might have some steel one I can snag, I would gladly trade them! I need both the 2" and 3/4".Anyway, I sat down and marked up the barrel and put painters tape on it to give myself a line to follow. I cut the opening to be 32" wide, and 18" tall along the circumference of the barrel (1/4 of the total circumference)Here is the sketch i drew to give you a better idea.And onto the barrel...Note the high tech stand used for the cutting process! Then took the 4.5" grinder with cutting blade to it! It cut real nice much easier than I was expecting to be honest...All after this was to lay the cutout section onto another one of the barrels and add 3/4" all the way around for a good overlap. (3/4" was the width of the painters tape I was using, made it really easy!) Cut out the lid and put it on...It might need a little tweaking here and there to get it to fit right but it should be good in the end. One question I have for everyone, the piece that i cut out for the opening I am obviously going to use for the diffuser in the cooking chamber. My question is...should I leave it as is or cut out holes or slots. I think I will keep it tight against the side of the barrel that the fire will be under to hopefully keeps temps more consistent throughout. This is what I'm talking about, should I keep this like it is or perferate it?!
     
  14. Looking good so far. I don't understand your defuser question. What will you use for the door if you use it for a defusser?

    Happy smoken.

    David
     
  15. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    I got three barrels. The piece that I cut out of the top barrel is the one I am talking about. The third barrel I used to cut out a piece that is 3/4" larger all the way around the opening so that it will seal up nicely.



    Does that help?
     
  16. fwismoker

    fwismoker Master of the Pit

    David i think since he has 3 barrels that he's using 1 of them to cut a door sized piece out and using that one for a heat diffuser for the cooking chamber....makes sense
     
  17. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    Correct you are sir. Anyone have any opinion on what I should do with the heat diffuser? Should I leave it solid or cut out holes or slots?
     
  18. I think both the holes or slots would work fine.
     
  19. Ok scratch my last post of holes or slots.Us feldons calculator as if you are just making a reverse flow. Then use the firebox to cook chamber # devide by 2. then use that amount of opening on both ends. Your stack will be in the center. So you should have pretty constant temp from side to side.

    Happy smoken.

    David
     
  20. smokinnh

    smokinnh Fire Starter

    You have a link for the calculator? I understand the concept but why would I use the reverse flow section if that is not what I am building? I was hoping to see some examples of what guys (or gals) that have used for this build and what works best...I'm still waiting on parts to come in. I ordered the barrel stove and double barrel adapter from HD and the 6" baffle collars from amazon due to the price difference. The stuff from amazon has come but not from HD. I'm a Gov. employee and my first day of this furlough is this friday to make a three day weekend. Hoping it comes in so I can do some work on it. BTW...no matter your party this whole sequestration/furlough thing sucks. Taking money from the people that actually do the work to support the warfighter...
     

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