Due to fire regs I will not be using real fire at home as I live in an apartment with a closed in (and very small) 6th floor balcony. I am actually going to remodel later this year and convert it to a four seasons dining room. I was going to try the flower pot smoker, but then the light came on and I remembered, that DUH no space to keep the sucker when its not working and the lil woman is NOT going to put up with tripping over that thing every time she wants to kick back out there. So my 2 or 3 remaining active brain cells started sparking and I remembered that in our city in Crimea Ukraine, (Yes, I'm a Male Order Groom) there's a Home Depot type of place where I saw folding grills. In this part of the world a grill is basically just a metal box for the fire and you use these long skewers called shampori to grill kabobs or a clam shell grill basket. Cooking grids aren't that common but can be found. So I think I can make a smoker using 2 of these grill boxes. One for the hot plate and the other for the lid. They're about 2 feet long so I MIGHT be able to offset the food enough to cold smoke, but that will be something to tinker with when I get home and buy the parts. Based on what I've read so far, I suspect I'll need a second box and some ducting though. Basically I'll be getting 2 of these. I'll just omit the legs for the top. 100 UAH (Ukrainian grivna) is about $8, FYI. Btw, you can use google translate to read the pages at the site. Just install the toolbar add on. I can fold them up flat and store out of the way when I'm not smoking AND I'll have TWO grills if we want to burn some kabobs for a crowd. HUAH!! For about $10 more I can buy the same thing with a set of six 18-20 inch skewers. Add a hot plate and I should be looking at well under $40 for the whole thing. And bear in mind that Smokers are unheard of in these parts so I'll probably have the only pit in town once I get it fired up. Buying one here is not an option and shipping is.......well lets just say it'd be cheaper to fly back to the States and buy one. I promise to get the Gview posted as soon as I get things going. And I'll post some accurate dimensions then as well. With a little luck I'll be carving some brisket for the 4th.