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Irishteabear I have used the Brat Kit to and I found my brats was to salty for my taste. Out of all the Hi Mountain kits I have used this is the only one I will not use again also. The casings I used took almost 5 hours of soaking to make usable. To use up the brats I used them in different soups and things and cut out the salt. They wasn't so bad that way and I didn't waste them.