AMNPS in a new MES 2.5 40

Discussion in 'A-Maze-N Smokers' started by jkindgren, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. jkindgren

    jkindgren Newbie

    Hey Guys.  Looking for some advice.  I got an AMNPS 5x8 and a MES 2.5 40 inch for fathers day.  I know, my wife and daughter are awesome.  Anyway I was wondering how to place my AMNPS.  I know I need to put it in the bottom left on the drip tray, but I have heard about problems with air flow.  Can I just set the AMNPS right on the bottom?  It does have short legs welded on.  Or do I need to fashion some type of device to keep it raised a bit?  Any ideas will be very helpful.  Thanks in advance for the flood of ideas coming from this vast wealth of smoking knowledge called smoking-meat forums.

    Jeff
     
  2. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Do you have the new Bluetooth model?  If so, what store did you buy it at?

    My Cabelas model came with a sausage hanger.  I put my AMPS on top of that and it works perfectly.  It's more important to pull the chip loader out correctly otherwise your AMPS will die out.  That requires some practice.
     
  3. jkindgren

    jkindgren Newbie

    My wife got it at SAMs. No sausage hanger. Did come with legs though. About how far do you keep the chip loader out?
     
  4. mori55

    mori55 Fire Starter

    I'm curious too , just got mine at Bass pro.
     
  5. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    The chip loader is easy once you figure it out.  I failed on 2 smokes because I didnt know WTF I was doing.  Anyway, push it halfway in and rotate it to the dump position.  Then keep pushing until it catches on the lip closest to the handle.  Then pull it out slowly until it catches on the far lip.  Then find the exact position between those two lips and mark it with a sharpie.   

    Here, a pic will probably illustrate it better (dont know what model this is but same principle)

     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2015
  6. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Oh and BTW, you wife sounds awesome.  Seriously. 

    You need to raise the tray.  I've never used it unraised but Dennis did a trial I think and it didnt work.  Raising it works, I can confirm this.  You can use anything to raise it 1-2 inches.  A brick is easiest.  I'm lucky my smoker came with this hanger that looks like it was meant for the AMPS tray.

    The chip loader is the most important though.  If my toddler bumps it closed, then the AMPS tray goes out.  Got to watch it and make sure its positioned right at that middle point. 

    Also, vent needs to be wide open. 

    Re: your Sams model.  You absolutely have to get the Squaretrade warranty that comes with it.  They sell it in store for $35.  It gives you a 3 year warranty.  A no brainer IMO.
     
  7. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I know this is about the Gen 2, but see if it is applicable to your smoker....


    EDIT..... from one of Todd's posts/////



    AMNPS 5x8 was actually designed out of frustration with my own MES 40
    Placement depends on which model MES you own

    Old Model MES

    Place the AMNPS 5x8 on the rails to the left of the chip pan housing
    Exhaust WIDE open
    No water in the water pan
    Pull the chip pan out 1.5"
    Pull the chip loader out 2"





    New Gen 2

    Remove the water pan and place it on the floor
    Place the AMNPS on top the hole where the water pan used to sit
    Exhaust WIDE open
    Pull the chip loader out 2" and rotate to the "Dump" position
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2015
  8. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Jeff,

    This is the best thing I've seen so far for the #2.5---Taken from a post by "Dennis Pfaff"

    His method gets plenty of air flow, instead of just setting it on the floor.

     I have an old bbq roasting wire basket that I haven't used in years. I put one half of the basket on the bottom floor of my 40in Bluetooth 2.5 and the AMNPS 5x8 tray fits perfectly on top of the basket and it raised about exactly the height of the water pan, and about level with the heat assembly. 
    Dennis
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2015
  9. jkindgren

    jkindgren Newbie

    Thanks for all the replies and advice. Looks like I will be going to the grilling section of my local hardware store to find something to set this on. Thanks mummel and yes I believe my wife bought the warranty also. I seasoned the smoker last night and it performed like a dream. Only about +\- 3 to 4 degree temp swings. Hope it performs that well with something in it.
     
  10. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Man your wife sounds smart haha.  How did she research all this stuff?  She a member here?  Good for her!  I would be really curious to see how much energy your window'ed version uses.  Do you have a Kill A Watt device by any chance?  You can get them free at your local library. 
     
  11. jkindgren

    jkindgren Newbie

    No I don't have a kilowatt device. My wife is smart, but I did give a pretty itemized wish list. :)
     
  12. ram3500fh

    ram3500fh Newbie

    When you say put the water pan on the floor are you saying to take it out completely? or put it on the floor of the MES?

    Trying to wrap my head around this, and since I'm brand new to smoking I figure I would just ask. I have the new 2.5, the Bluetooth one.

    Thanks,

    Scott
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2015
  13. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    In the 2.5 BT one, just foil your water pan and keep it in.  Acts as a heat deflector and catches drippings.  Also foil the drip tray.  ALSO, foil the element/chip burner metal plate.  Helps keep it nice and tidy. 
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2015
  14. driedstick

    driedstick Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    well did you give it a try?? how did it turn out??? try it without smoking anything just to see how id does for you before you do a actual smoke

    A full smoker is a happy smoker

    DS
     
  15. floridasteve

    floridasteve Smoking Fanatic

    I've only used my pellet tray twice. The first time I put it on the drip pan on the far left side of my 40" BT and it didn't work well. The next time I nuked the pellets first and placed the tray right over the drain whole of the drip pan, thinking it would draw air up through that. It worked fine for 7 hours filled with hickory. Both time I had the chip loader in the dump position and pulled out about two inches and the exhaust vent wide open.
     
  16. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    You definitely need to raise the tray off the ground. 
     
  17. mori55

    mori55 Fire Starter

    I did a test run with my amnps with it sitting on the bottom rt in the mes 40. It smoked great. I opened the chip loader half way.
     
  18. mori55

    mori55 Fire Starter

    Sorry I meant bottom left looking in.
     
  19. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    So not elevated?
     
  20. mori55

    mori55 Fire Starter

    No I didn't elevate it. Just sitting in the bottom of the cooker.
     

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